ps1 Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 By "here" are you saying New Jersey or the entire US?NO I met from NJ and NY where I'm from.I know a few gracie guys and we sometimes train in the part in NY.He told me they work mostly all ground work and what I've seen so far looks to be true.I'm sure other BJJ can train differently but that's what I've seen so far alone with a bout 10 BJJ guys I've come across. I have not seen any self defense from BJJ so far.its mostly for competition.I see what you mean. I will say, however, that the most trained portion of the art is the ground work. Not for competition, but because that is where they feel most fights end up (wether you agree with this or not is a different discussion all together). Of course they would like to end the fight while standing. The best techniques in the system (rear naked choke and guillotine) both work on the feet just as effectively as the ground. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Even though they may train primarily for competition, it does not mean that their training is not effective for self-defense. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Even though they may train primarily for competition, it does not mean that their training is not effective for self-defense.True enough. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Even though they may train primarily for competition, it does not mean that their training is not effective for self-defense.Now that I think of it, this is a great statement when it comes to BJJ. For them, competition requires being able to string together several techniques without hesitation and applying advanced versions of their basic techniques. However, with most standing martial arts, competition tends to be very different than what is trained for self defense. This is why BJJ can train for competition and still be suitable for self defense. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Even though they may train primarily for competition, it does not mean that their training is not effective for self-defense.Now that I think of it, this is a great statement when it comes to BJJ. For them, competition requires being able to string together several techniques without hesitation and applying advanced versions of their basic techniques. However, with most standing martial arts, competition tends to be very different than what is trained for self defense. This is why BJJ can train for competition and still be suitable for self defense.That is my sentiments exactly. If you know the history of BJJ, you can see that this style has been a direct beneficiary of the training philosophies and methodologies of Jigoro Kano. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Kano was a genius! In my opinion, his contribution of Randori is virtually unmatched as far as modern MAs go. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Kano was a genius! In my opinion, his contribution of Randori is virtually unmatched as far as modern MAs go.His practice of randori is what gave his students the edge over the more "leathal" moves and training that the JJJ practitioners did. The Gracies have benefited the same way. I personally think that is a big benefit for wrestlers as well. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Definitely!! It's the same edge that anyone who practices their maistay techniques at full go will have. Kyokushikai, boxing ect... "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Definitely!! It's the same edge that anyone who practices their maistay techniques at full go will have. Kyokushikai, boxing ect...I also feel this way about Olympic TKD. The only con there is the restriction of the target areas. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ff100 Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 I agree with the others in that multiple attackers against one is a bad but like the others attack the biggest 1st. If your lucky and hes down try to position yourself so that one of the other attackers is in front of the the other. If you see the big fella getting up attack him again. If at chance presents itself get the hell out of dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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