Football season is here!!!

[bushido_man96]

Not terribly unlikely for the Cowboys to beat the Eagles.  It was a division game, and playing a team twice a year, sometimes things go that way.

[sensei8]

I love my Cowboys. However, I’m starting to lose faith in them across the board. Yeah, Cowboys beat the Eagles but I don’t want to hang that win on any hope. 

As long as Dak is still a Cowboys and as long as Jones is still the GM, my faith in them reaching the SB again in my life time is dwindling.

GO…ah never mind!!

Edited November 26 by sensei8

[DarthPenguin]

7 hours ago, sensei8 said:

I love my Cowboys. However, I’m starting to lose faith in them across the board. Yeah, Cowboys beat the Eagles but I don’t want to hang that win on any hope. 

As long as Dak is still a Cowboys and as long as Jones is still the GM, my faith in them reaching the SB again in my life time is dwindling.

GO…ah never mind!!

Yeah i think that Dak is a large part of the problem tbh. I have always thought he is massively overrated. Was interesting that one of the studio guys came out and said that on the UK NFL coverage the other day (he was a former Giant DL) and the other posts really had a go at him for it, talking about how great Dak is. I've never seen it tbh. He is decent but not a top tier QB

[KarateKen]

Turkey Day football kicks off in less than 24 hours.  Here are the matchups for this year.

Green Bay at Detroit - 1pm eastern on FOX

Kansas City at Dallas -4:30pm eastern on CBS and Paramount +

Baltimore at Cincinnati - 5:20pm eastern on NBC

Happy Thanksgiving! Gobble Gobble 

[bushido_man96]

14 hours ago, DarthPenguin said:

Yeah i think that Dak is a large part of the problem tbh. I have always thought he is massively overrated. Was interesting that one of the studio guys came out and said that on the UK NFL coverage the other day (he was a former Giant DL) and the other posts really had a go at him for it, talking about how great Dak is. I've never seen it tbh. He is decent but not a top tier QB

The problem is, there are only so many "tip tier" QBs out there, and they're all signed.  Dak is good enough to lead a franchise for 10+ years, which he is doing.  If you can get a QB like that, then you have to and you have to run with him.  I think the ownership is more of the problem than the QB.  Worse QBs than Dak have won championships.

[DarthPenguin]

9 hours ago, bushido_man96 said:

The problem is, there are only so many "tip tier" QBs out there, and they're all signed.  Dak is good enough to lead a franchise for 10+ years, which he is doing.  If you can get a QB like that, then you have to and you have to run with him.  I think the ownership is more of the problem than the QB.  Worse QBs than Dak have won championships.

All true but usually when it is one of the teams winning with a worse QB (eg some of the Ravens teams, the Gruden Bucs) the gameplan relies on something else such as a dominant running game and/or defence. For the Cowboys they seem to place a lot on his shoulders and he, in my view, isn't good enough to deal with the required level of play to win a championship in that structure. I do agree that if he had been on the 49ers superbowl team etc. then yeah he might have won!

[KarateKen]

I've had it with Dan Campbell and this stupid 4th down garbage.  Kick the field goal. 

[bushido_man96]

On 11/27/2025 at 5:14 AM, DarthPenguin said:

All true but usually when it is one of the teams winning with a worse QB (eg some of the Ravens teams, the Gruden Bucs) the gameplan relies on something else such as a dominant running game and/or defence. For the Cowboys they seem to place a lot on his shoulders and he, in my view, isn't good enough to deal with the required level of play to win a championship in that structure. I do agree that if he had been on the 49ers superbowl team etc. then yeah he might have won!

Ok, then, what's the solution?  I hear lots of people say these kinds of things, but what's the solution?  Only one team a year wins the Super Bowl.  Do you let a guy like Dak go and take a chance on a rookie?  Or go get another veteran that also hasn't won a Super Bowl?  Only 2 QBs have won a Super Bowl in the last 5 years.  Go get one of those guys?  Nope, they're already signed.  So now you look at the next tier.  Josh Allen?  He's won as many as Dak has, but can the Cowboys get him?  Doubt it, he's signed for the long-term, too.  Joe Burrow?  Signed up to be in Cincy.  Matthew Stafford?  Looks like he could play til he's 40...with the Rams.  Lamar Jackson?  Not available.

You see what I mean?  Easy to say, hard to do.  Those resources are limited.  So, I ask again, should Dallas cut Dak and try to find the next best thing?

[DarthPenguin]

3 hours ago, bushido_man96 said:

Ok, then, what's the solution?  I hear lots of people say these kinds of things, but what's the solution?  Only one team a year wins the Super Bowl.  Do you let a guy like Dak go and take a chance on a rookie?  Or go get another veteran that also hasn't won a Super Bowl?  Only 2 QBs have won a Super Bowl in the last 5 years.  Go get one of those guys?  Nope, they're already signed.  So now you look at the next tier.  Josh Allen?  He's won as many as Dak has, but can the Cowboys get him?  Doubt it, he's signed for the long-term, too.  Joe Burrow?  Signed up to be in Cincy.  Matthew Stafford?  Looks like he could play til he's 40...with the Rams.  Lamar Jackson?  Not available.

You see what I mean?  Easy to say, hard to do.  Those resources are limited.  So, I ask again, should Dallas cut Dak and try to find the next best thing?

All valid points, though in my mind it is similar to the Bucs letting Dungy go and picking up Gruden to get them over the hump for the superbowl. Or the Packers transitioning from Favre to Rodgers (Favre was still a quality QB), the 49ers from Montana (who was still good at the Chiefs) to Steve Young etc.

Having a decent but not great QB in Dak means the Cowboys can draft a decent QB (not the np.1 pick obviously) with a tonne of upside and coach them in their system for a year or two and then give them the keys. Ideally like Jordan Love at the Packers. Or if they get crazy lucky they get someone like Purdy (or Brady back in the day) who is drafted low, doesn't cost much, but is good enough to play and then lets them spend money on the other parts of the team.

Could also make the argument that sometimes (in North American sports - it doesn't really apply to European sports without salary caps) a rebuild is what is needed to improve the team. Consistently finishing with a decent record and mid to late round draft pics means the foundations don't really improve. A rebuild where they tank for a year or two and draft some top talent has been proven to work in Basebell (and the NBA to an extent). It is a risk but it gives the potential of a top tier talent, plus the Cowboys are such a big name and Jones is usually a willing spender to worst case they can always get in a decent free agent or two if worried!

I do agree that jettisoning Dak is a big risk but i personally think it is the only way the Cowboys will win the SB in the near future (this is going to come back to haunt me i know!)

[sensei8]

I got a chuckle out of moring news just the other morning when it was reported that the Raiders are now out of the playoff hunt.

What do they mean ‘now’??

Raiders, imho, had been out of the playoff hunt for sometimes now. 

It gets worse for the Raiders as they now have to host the Broncos. Then they go in the road to face the Eagles, followed by the Texans. Then they return home to end the season with the Giants followed by the Chiefs; to me, that’s nothing but bad news for the Raiders!!

My Cowboys are still in the hunt for making it to the playoffs. Whooping big deal!! As long as Dak remains as the starting QB, the Cowboys will always be a one-out in the playoffs, if they ever make it to the playoffs. 

Cowboys remaining schedule has the Cowboys on the road to face the Lions. Then they return home to host the Vikings, then the Rams. Then the Cowboys go on the road to close out the season against the Commanders, then the Giants. Not an easy task for my Cowboys. Cowboys maybe in the hunt but that’s about it.

History has an ugly way of repeating itself!!

GO COWBOYS!!

Edited 22 hours ago by sensei8