Football season is here!!!

[sensei8]

4 hours ago, KarateKen said:

Some fans were unhappy last week when Roger Goodell announced that putting the Super Bowl on a paid streaming service was "certainly possible."  The league already requires a paid streaming service for many games including Thursday nights and Christmas, and with streaming being the future of live sports, I would expect it to happen at some point, though that is still many years away.

I was amongst the unhappy fans about Goodell’s SB announcement. It’s their product and they’ve the right to market it any way they feel fit to.

Money speaks in volumes and is the root of evil. Putting SB on a PPV is as evil as it gets. I suppose only the rich are to enjoy PLE and not anyone else.

How rich do the rich need to be?!? There’s no affordable PLE sports and entertainment in Las Vegas, or any where else!!

[KarateKen]

14 minutes ago, sensei8 said:

I was amongst the unhappy fans about Goodell’s SB announcement. It’s their product and they’ve the right to market it any way they feel fit to.

Money speaks in volumes and is the root of evil. Putting SB on a PPV is as evil as it gets. I suppose only the rich are to enjoy PLE and not anyone else.

How rich do the rich need to be?!? There’s no affordable PLE sports and entertainment in Las Vegas, or any where else!!

The NFL worships money.  No amount will ever be enough for them. 

[DarthPenguin]

5 hours ago, sensei8 said:

I was amongst the unhappy fans about Goodell’s SB announcement. It’s their product and they’ve the right to market it any way they feel fit to.

Money speaks in volumes and is the root of evil. Putting SB on a PPV is as evil as it gets. I suppose only the rich are to enjoy PLE and not anyone else.

How rich do the rich need to be?!? There’s no affordable PLE sports and entertainment in Las Vegas, or any where else!!

Tbh as someone abroad i have always thought you guys get the short end of the stick with charges for sports. UFC and boxing are an easy example: if i decide to pay for a boxing PPV here (and it is normally only the biggest high profile fights that are a PPV) it is about £20/25 usually - i was shocked to see it is $99 in the USA and covers a lot of the fights. Similarly my subscription to TNT sports (formerly ESPN etc in the UK) includes almost all UFC events - i only pay for the biggest ones that are a PPV and sometimes i object on principle to paying when i already have a subscription!

You guys definitely get ripped off - I also saw the head of TKO openly saying that WWE prices needed to change as they were stupidly priced to allow families to attend and it was leaving potential profits on the table! Sheer greed - if families can't attend then they are costing themselves potential future customers!

[sensei8]

4 hours ago, DarthPenguin said:

You guys definitely get ripped off - I also saw the head of TKO openly saying that WWE prices needed to change as they were stupidly priced to allow families to attend and it was leaving potential profits on the table! Sheer greed - if families can't attend then they are costing themselves potential future customers!

I just checked WWE Wrestlemania, and a ticket at section 326, corner, $341 and a ticket at section 338, middle, $1,744. Nose bleed section 436 costs $953. 2-Day Pass in Section A4, on the floor that faces the main camera is $15,019!! Give me a break!!

Someone’s lost their mind!! 

Anything, except UNLV football games, at Allegiant Stadium will got you a small fortune!! The powers that be get away with charging high prices because some fans have more money than they’ll ever spend in a life time!!

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 01:46 PM by sensei8

[DarthPenguin]

It really is just pure greed!

[sensei8]

My wife is not a happy camper with her Raiders, who lost to the visiting Bears 25-24.

Imho, the game was lost in the last 2:00 minutes of the game. Raiders rushing was incredible for the whole entire game. However, the Raiders still can’t get out of their own way and this was quite apparent with costly turnovers, mental lapses, and a blocked field goal in the final minute.

All in all, Raiders threw away a game that they should’ve won. Jeanty had an excellent and outstanding game. Raiders struggled with coverage, defense faltered, Meyers' mistakes, Smith's turnover parade, and a blocked field goal in the final seconds, and the meltdown was complete.

The season’s not going to get better for the Raiders. 1-3 Raiders travel to the hosting 3-1 Colts next week.

Poor Raiders!!

GO COWBOYS!!

Edited Tuesday at 11:55 PM by sensei8

[KarateKen]

11 hours ago, sensei8 said:

I just checked WWE Wrestlemania, and a ticket at section 326, corner, $341 and a ticket at section 338, middle, $1,744. Nose bleed section 436 costs $953. 2-Day Pass in Section A4, on the floor that faces the main camera is $15,019!! Give me a break!!

Someone’s lost their mind!! 

Anything, except UNLV football games, at Allegiant Stadium will got you a small fortune!! The powers that be get away with charging high prices because some fans have more money than they’ll ever spend in a life time!!

 

 

 

 Who is paying that  I am stunned.  

[KarateKen]

15 hours ago, DarthPenguin said:

Tbh as someone abroad i have always thought you guys get the short end of the stick with charges for sports. UFC and boxing are an easy example: if i decide to pay for a boxing PPV here (and it is normally only the biggest high profile fights that are a PPV) it is about £20/25 usually - i was shocked to see it is $99 in the USA and covers a lot of the fights. Similarly my subscription to TNT sports (formerly ESPN etc in the UK) includes almost all UFC events - i only pay for the biggest ones that are a PPV and sometimes i object on principle to paying when i already have a subscription!

You guys definitely get ripped off - I also saw the head of TKO openly saying that WWE prices needed to change as they were stupidly priced to allow families to attend and it was leaving potential profits on the table! Sheer greed - if families can't attend then they are costing themselves potential future customers!

I didn't realize it was so different where you are.  Here in the US to get a UFC PPV you also have to order a month of ESPN+ streaming, so you need to sign up for the streaming service to be eligible to order the PPV.  Crazy.  Sounds like you are getting a better deal. 

I don't know anything about the WWE or TKO but it seems to be more of a trend to push out the middle class and only cater to the wealthy for live sports.  The cost of tickets in many markets have gotten nuts.  Also there has been a cultural shift in sports in the USA, and that is one toward gambling.  The leagues are in business with the casino's now, players are doing ads for sports gambling that run during the game, broadcasters and pregame shows talk about betting odds, ESPN even owns a sports gambling website.  In 2018 the US Supreme Court ruled that sports gambling is legal according to federal law and while not all the states are on board yet, many are.  Gambling can now be done from your phone while you sit at the game.  As a result, online sports gambling has become one of the fastest growing addictions in America.  Major pro sports are becoming less about the father/son tradition of bonding at the games and more about gambling and corporate greed.  The salaries are higher than ever, and so are the ticket prices.  Then you add the taxes, fees, parking, and cost of concessions (20 dollars for a beer) and you can see why many people are getting priced out of the market. 

[sensei8]

20 hours ago, KarateKen said:

 Who is paying that  I am stunned.  

Someone who has a lot of money, which leaves me way way way way out.

[DarthPenguin]

On 10/1/2025 at 2:19 AM, KarateKen said:

I didn't realize it was so different where you are.  Here in the US to get a UFC PPV you also have to order a month of ESPN+ streaming, so you need to sign up for the streaming service to be eligible to order the PPV.  Crazy.  Sounds like you are getting a better deal. 

I don't know anything about the WWE or TKO but it seems to be more of a trend to push out the middle class and only cater to the wealthy for live sports.  The cost of tickets in many markets have gotten nuts.  Also there has been a cultural shift in sports in the USA, and that is one toward gambling.  The leagues are in business with the casino's now, players are doing ads for sports gambling that run during the game, broadcasters and pregame shows talk about betting odds, ESPN even owns a sports gambling website.  In 2018 the US Supreme Court ruled that sports gambling is legal according to federal law and while not all the states are on board yet, many are.  Gambling can now be done from your phone while you sit at the game.  As a result, online sports gambling has become one of the fastest growing addictions in America.  Major pro sports are becoming less about the father/son tradition of bonding at the games and more about gambling and corporate greed.  The salaries are higher than ever, and so are the ticket prices.  Then you add the taxes, fees, parking, and cost of concessions (20 dollars for a beer) and you can see why many people are getting priced out of the market. 

The thing is over here gambling has always been allowed and sports gambling is a huge deal - multiple bookmakers on every high street etc; several football clubs are sponsored directly by Bookmakers (they wear the bookmakers name on the front of their jersey) : i support Glasgow Rangers personally and they have "Unibet" as a jersey sponsor etc.

So i don't think it is necessarily gambling companies that are the issue with the prices, just seems to be a shift in mindset over time: tbh not going to go into much more detail here as i have my own thoughts on that and it would likely get too political for on here!