my martial strategy

[bushido_man96]

It would seem to me that even if all they try to do is box, they still won't have much in the way of footwork. And if they try to move around, then you just have to wait for their pants to slip down a little more, tripping them up.

[elbows_and_knees]

I have always wondered how those baggy pants wearing guys would look trying to fight.

well most of my friends who sag like to try and box in a fight. alot of my friends like boxing for some reason, i guess cuss alot of the rappers we listen to talk about/do boxing. And because of that many people will try to box in a fight even if they dont have hands( means they cant fight) and think that kicking in a fight looks like week or dosent work.( obviously have never taken a side to the head like i have.

kicking does have it's disadvantages, but that's for a different thread. yeah, rappers from TI to wu tang talk about boxing - anybody from the hood knows what slap boxing is and has done it pretty often. rarely do they talk a bout kicking because they don't do it. man's instinct is to punch, not to kick. If an untrained man does throw a kick, it's usually a front push kick type, IME - A quick, stomp-like kick. Why? kicking leaves you off balance, and even moreso if you haven't been trained to kick.

Edited September 22, 2006 by elbows_and_knees

[elbows_and_knees]

It would seem to me that even if all they try to do is box, they still won't have much in the way of footwork. And if they try to move around, then you just have to wait for their pants to slip down a little more, tripping them up.

pants sagged to the butt level won't impair footwork - they can move. The problem comes in when they try to raise the knees - running, kicking, etc. The lowered crotch seams won't allow them to do it. I've only seen a few situations where the pants actually fell down.

[bushido_man96]

It would seem to me that even if all they try to do is box, they still won't have much in the way of footwork. And if they try to move around, then you just have to wait for their pants to slip down a little more, tripping them up.

pants sagged to the butt level won't impair footwork - they can move. The problem comes in when they try to raise the knees - running, kicking, etc. The lowered crotch seams won't allow them to do it. I've only seen a few situations where the pants actually fell down.

Ah, I see. Good to know. Being a kicker, I also agree with your idea about kicking feeling unnatural for untrained people. It takes a while for the trained person to become comfortable with using them proficiently, and having the confidence to use them without thought.