bushido_man96 Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 I think that the only time you will see a fight start from a stance is in competitions. Most of the time, it is a fairly natural fighting stance, nothing really fancy. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
elbows_and_knees Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 Well, by crumple the stance I mean a stomp kick to the knee. But they DO call it Wing Chun Chinese Boxing in many places...yeah, I know what you meant. In boxing, I would make an angle and wear out his body or face, weakening his legs. It's the same principle, but different means of execution.
elbows_and_knees Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 i did not say to look at the stance ur opponent is in that was a post made by another member, true sometimes u can tell alot about the way ur opponent might fight if u actually have time 2 do it, but like u said that seldom comes. i merely said analyze to know ur threat level a person, who is high own X and crack is obviously going to be more dangerous to u than a really fat guy having a bad day."analyze- since all fighters, do not fight the same and are not all, as deadly or difficult, because of this you must take time to view ur opponent, and analyze your oppenent to find many things before attacking. things such as : style of fighting( if you can tell ) which will sometimes reveal how ur may react to sertain moves, strike, or best moves but sometimes not all of this is sertain from just looking at ur opponents fighting style so U must keep and open mind, also u must then find out what type of threat level ur in to figure out some techniques ur opponent might use."that is along the same line - you are trying to analyze what style he's using. You will likely not have time for that. If I walk in your face and hit you for no reason, how would you know I was high? Like I said, those are things that are nice to know, but in a confrontation will likely not be things you will have the benefit of knowing.
masterintraining Posted September 16, 2006 Author Posted September 16, 2006 i was using the high thing as a example, in almost every confrontation there will be some kind of way to analyze something about ur opponent, most fights including ones i have been in or seen never start figt for know reason to many people carry guns knowadays or in gangs for you to do that. if u work at a bar than u can analyze and know the potential threat level of drunk guy, if u are walking down a bad street and u see somebody coming towards you holding something then that is analyzation and that is knowing ur threat level, and other things like fighting stance if the fight goes that far and u can have enough time. its basicly about analyzing the things u can and have enough time for, i just listed what i listed as a meens of explanation or example. ( know do u understand) you must learn different combinations of techniques down to your very soul and they must come without thinking when you finish with one technique, you must immediately go into another until you have attained your goal which is to destroy the enemy.
elbows_and_knees Posted September 18, 2006 Posted September 18, 2006 i was using the high thing as a example, in almost every confrontation there will be some kind of way to analyze something about ur opponent, most fights..."most fights" is a avery broad generalization... where are you getting this statistic? is it published somewhere, or are you making it up based on what you've seen and heard?including ones i have been in or seen never start figt for know reason to many people carry guns knowadays or in gangs for you to do that. if u work at a bar than u can analyze and know the potential threat level of drunk guy1. not every guy in a bar drinks.2. guys in a bar are sometime high and not drunk3. the guy, whether he's drink, sober or high may have a knife in his pocket4. PLENTY of fights start for no reason. I see them all the time. I have had a guy tap me on the shoulder and swing at me when I turned around. No reason at all, other than he wanted to fight with someone and picked me.5. Not as many people carry guns as you think they do. Even of the ones that do, oftentimes they are left in the car. In addition, if the gun is holstered, it must be drawn before they can use it.6. gang involvement dwindles as age increases. in a crowd of people ages 25 - 30, I'd bet most of them aren't affiliated with any gang. That doesn't mean that he doesn't have buddies that will help them, just that it's not gang related.7. I deal with crips, GDs, lords, surrenos and bloods on a regular basis. you can't tell by looking at them what they are, unless you can spot a tat or something, and you still don't know how many there are or aren't of them, meaning you can accurately analyze the threat they pose.if u are walking down a bad street and u see somebody coming towards you holding something then that is analyzation and that is knowing ur threat levelyes, it is. However, reading your initial post, you are addressing an altercation in progress, not analyzing passers by. This is totally different. And also not analyzing threat, as the person poses no threat to you - yet. you are analyzing potential threat level.and other things like fighting stance if the fight goes that far and u can have enough time.I addressed that earlier. Like I said, an altercation is too fast and furious to worry about that. In a ring, it's fine, but in a fight, no.its basicly about analyzing the things u can and have enough time for, i just listed what i listed as a meens of explanation or example. ( know do u understand)I understand what you are saying, I just think it's the wrong context for it. I would go into greater detail and discuss pre and infight analysis. When you see a person, scan them. Look for bulges in the clothing, attitude of the person walking, facial expression, whether or not the person is alone, how baggy the clothes are, etc. THAT is the analysis. Once the fight begins, there is no more analysis, it's all action. that is where control and destroy can come in.
masterintraining Posted September 19, 2006 Author Posted September 19, 2006 out of curiousity what do u do that envolves u in crip, bloods, etc. it sounds like what ever ur job is can get pretty scary at times.oh and " hey" not every body who saggs there pants is bad i dont have a single pair of jeans in my house that i cant sag . i guess i listen to 2 much rap or somethin. you must learn different combinations of techniques down to your very soul and they must come without thinking when you finish with one technique, you must immediately go into another until you have attained your goal which is to destroy the enemy.
elbows_and_knees Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 out of curiousity what do u do that envolves u in crip, bloods, etc. it sounds like what ever ur job is can get pretty scary at times.oh and " hey" not every body who saggs there pants is bad i dont have a single pair of jeans in my house that i cant sag . i guess i listen to 2 much rap or somethin. I'm a bouncer on my second job. We have three floors, and the second floor is all rap. Consequently, that's where all the wanna be thugs hang out. I work on the second floor. I get all types of gang members in there. I also live in a neighborhood with several GDs, and when I played ball in high school, 25% of the team were bloods. We actually had a shootout at football practice once. I've been dealing with them for years.Nah, not everyone that sags is bad, but I personally think it's tacky. Not only that, but it doesn't help you at all in a fight. You ever try to kick while your pants were sagged? I've seen guys at the club trip and fall while trying to run and also while trying to fight because their pants were sagged.
masterintraining Posted September 21, 2006 Author Posted September 21, 2006 thats why i where somethin called a belt lol. you must learn different combinations of techniques down to your very soul and they must come without thinking when you finish with one technique, you must immediately go into another until you have attained your goal which is to destroy the enemy.
bushido_man96 Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 I have always wondered how those baggy pants wearing guys would look trying to fight. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
masterintraining Posted September 22, 2006 Author Posted September 22, 2006 I have always wondered how those baggy pants wearing guys would look trying to fight.well most of my friends who sag like to try and box in a fight. alot of my friends like boxing for some reason, i guess cuss alot of the rappers we listen to talk about/do boxing. And because of that many people will try to box in a fight even if they dont have hands( means they cant fight) and think that kicking in a fight looks like week or dosent work.( obviously have never taken a side to the head like i have. you must learn different combinations of techniques down to your very soul and they must come without thinking when you finish with one technique, you must immediately go into another until you have attained your goal which is to destroy the enemy.
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