my martial strategy

[masterintraining]

it took me some time but after alot of thinking, reading, and asking my sifu and assisstant instructor many numerous questions i have formulated a main strategy for all martial artist but primarily kungfu especially since so many people have all these questions 2 whether or not Kungfu is actually effective in combat. I call it A.C.D.

A: analyze- since all fighters, do not fight the same and are not all, as deadly or difficult, because of this you must take time to view ur opponent, and analyze your oppenent to find many things before attacking. things such as : style of fighting( if you can tell ) which will sometimes reveal how ur may react to sertain moves, strike, or best moves but sometimes not all of this is sertain from just looking at ur opponents fighting style so U must keep and open mind, also u must then find out what type of threat level ur in to figure out some techniques ur opponent might use. if he is just trying to mess with u or is playing to much then his/her moves may not be as effective becasue they are not focused or just trying to make you look bad, so u can capsize own the fact that there is no will or strength behind there moves, and it shows that your in as much danger as ud be if u were fighting a person out for ur blood, because of that you do not have to use as much lethal moves as you would for a person trying to kill u.

C: control - however strong ur opponent may be, or how deadly they are after u first analyze ur opponent. next is 2 disable ur opponenet through taking control of ur opponent, if u just keep kicking and punching that person then unless u land a lucky shot then that person will probably just keep coming. and even if u do that could just make them even more angry which would raise the level of threat ur opponent is,instead take control of ur opponenet to stop them from being able to fight u anymore, and make the person like an action figure( your the one controling it , making it move, etc.) now they only do what u let them. there are many ways to do this, some by grappling, others by take downs whatever takes control that person.

and last 2nd D: destroy- simple as that once ur opponent has been takin conrtol of continue to do that but this is where u use strikes in succesion with ur conrtol taking moves. example: u have ur opponent in a arm trap and they cant get there other over to hit u. ( control) while that person is in the arm lock, knee him attack him to the face with a mantis backfist or another move, break his arm ( if that person had a level of threat needed for that) than take that arm and use it to throw them and after they are own the ground crush them under ur foot with a stomp.( if needed) and u have stoped that person from attacking, in other words destroyed. and thats my strategy in a nutshell, please reply to this and give me ur oppinion own this theory, it might need some work so i would love some helpful criticism.

[bushido_man96]

Well, it looks like you have thought this out quite a bit. You have some good elements in there. Recognizing the threat level is important. Feeling out your opponent on the street though, may prove more difficult than it would be in a sport situation. Other than that, it is sound.

[MizuRyu]

Well thought out indeed.

In our particular school of Wing Chun, we have a priority of stance. You can tell what someone's intention is by their stance right off the bat. Boxers, kickers, wrestlers all have their stances. We deflect what punches or strikes we can going in, set up an angle, and crumple the stance. From there, it's your game.

From what I understand, Mantis has a bit in common with Wing Chun, you could try this little strategy out for yourself with friends and whatnot. It works like a CHARM.

"The arms are like the blades of a fan, the knees are the plug. Unplug the fan, and the blades won't do it much good."

[bushido_man96]

That's a cool concept, MizuRyu. I may have to try it sometime.

[HG]

Analyze- Know yourself, know your opponent - 100 battles 100 wins (Baak Jin, Baak Sing).

Control- This important step is commonly skipped over by focusing on the hit. Controlling your opponent just makes things easier.

Destroy- This is crux of martial art success or failure. The attack must cause pain. Adrenaline is flowing. Strikes aren't going to have the same effect as in the sterile enviroment of class sparring - full contact included.

The problem is not everyone has the killer instinct to hurt another human being. A timid martial artist must commit to overcome this. Pain leads the mind.

It's not a bad plan. As for Kung Fu's effectiveness. If you belong to a good school & train correctly - you already know the answer. Don't put too much effort in trying to convince others.

[elbows_and_knees]

it took me some time but after alot of thinking, reading, and asking my sifu and assisstant instructor many numerous questions i have formulated a main strategy for all martial artist but primarily kungfu especially since so many people have all these questions 2 whether or not Kungfu is actually effective in combat. I call it A.C.D.

A: analyze- since all fighters, do not fight the same and are not all, as deadly or difficult, because of this you must take time to view ur opponent, and analyze your oppenent to find many things before attacking. things such as : style of fighting( if you can tell ) which will sometimes reveal how ur may react to sertain moves, strike, or best moves but sometimes not all of this is sertain from just looking at ur opponents fighting style so U must keep and open mind, also u must then find out what type of threat level ur in to figure out some techniques ur opponent might use. if he is just trying to mess with u or is playing to much then his/her moves may not be as effective becasue they are not focused or just trying to make you look bad, so u can capsize own the fact that there is no will or strength behind there moves, and it shows that your in as much danger as ud be if u were fighting a person out for ur blood, because of that you do not have to use as much lethal moves as you would for a person trying to kill u.

C: control - however strong ur opponent may be, or how deadly they are after u first analyze ur opponent. next is 2 disable ur opponenet through taking control of ur opponent, if u just keep kicking and punching that person then unless u land a lucky shot then that person will probably just keep coming. and even if u do that could just make them even more angry which would raise the level of threat ur opponent is,instead take control of ur opponenet to stop them from being able to fight u anymore, and make the person like an action figure( your the one controling it , making it move, etc.) now they only do what u let them. there are many ways to do this, some by grappling, others by take downs whatever takes control that person.

and last 2nd D: destroy- simple as that once ur opponent has been takin conrtol of continue to do that but this is where u use strikes in succesion with ur conrtol taking moves. example: u have ur opponent in a arm trap and they cant get there other over to hit u. ( control) while that person is in the arm lock, knee him attack him to the face with a mantis backfist or another move, break his arm ( if that person had a level of threat needed for that) than take that arm and use it to throw them and after they are own the ground crush them under ur foot with a stomp.( if needed) and u have stoped that person from attacking, in other words destroyed. and thats my strategy in a nutshell, please reply to this and give me ur oppinion own this theory, it might need some work so i would love some helpful criticism.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like think this is good either for the ring or the street.

A. Analyzing is a good thing, but you are WAY overanalyzing anything that you will have time for in a fight. Fights start and end quickly. you don't have time to analyze stance - many times there will not even be a stance, just a sudden strike. I see / participate bar fights all the time. rarely does anyone assume any stance. I don't even assume a stance until after the fighting has begun, and while that is going on, things are too intense to be focusing on what stance a person is in. Also, by the way they are attacking, you cannot asset what intent they intend to do to you. I may only be punching you now because I don't see the bottle on the bar next to me. Once I see it, BAM! Also, with the high stress of the situation, you don't have time to think "Okay, I need to use lethal moves against this guy" you just use what comes out, which is going to be what is ingrained in you.

From a sport fighting perspective, you are usually told what style the guy practices beforehand, and if you do your legwork, can probably get video of the guy fighting, unless it's a local event. In this case, you do all of your analysis before the fight and train accordingly. I think your A is valid, but not in the context you are trying to put it.

C. you can strike and control a person. It's a boxing term called stalking. I keep you in the quadrant of the ring that I want you in by using aggressive footwork, making angles and cutting you off.

From a street perspective, it's not necessarily relying on a lucky punch. It's doing as you are trained - punching in combination. one shot may not KO him, but three or four might. I do agree that the easiest method to control him is grappling. However, by grappling, you do have to be careful that there are no other attackers. doesn't always happen that way, but it can happen.

D. Is the ultimate goal anyway... that's merely ending the confrontation and is not strategy related.

[elbows_and_knees]

Well thought out indeed.

In our particular school of Wing Chun, we have a priority of stance. You can tell what someone's intention is by their stance right off the bat. Boxers, kickers, wrestlers all have their stances. We deflect what punches or strikes we can going in, set up an angle, and crumple the stance. From there, it's your game.

From what I understand, Mantis has a bit in common with Wing Chun, you could try this little strategy out for yourself with friends and whatnot. It works like a CHARM.

"The arms are like the blades of a fan, the knees are the plug. Unplug the fan, and the blades won't do it much good."

Actually, that sounds A LOT like boxing...

[MizuRyu]

Well, by crumple the stance I mean a stomp kick to the knee. But they DO call it Wing Chun Chinese Boxing in many places...

[masterintraining]

it took me some time but after alot of thinking, reading, and asking my sifu and assisstant instructor many numerous questions i have formulated a main strategy for all martial artist but primarily kungfu especially since so many people have all these questions 2 whether or not Kungfu is actually effective in combat. I call it A.C.D.

A: analyze- since all fighters, do not fight the same and are not all, as deadly or difficult, because of this you must take time to view ur opponent, and analyze your oppenent to find many things before attacking. things such as : style of fighting( if you can tell ) which will sometimes reveal how ur may react to sertain moves, strike, or best moves but sometimes not all of this is sertain from just looking at ur opponents fighting style so U must keep and open mind, also u must then find out what type of threat level ur in to figure out some techniques ur opponent might use. if he is just trying to mess with u or is playing to much then his/her moves may not be as effective becasue they are not focused or just trying to make you look bad, so u can capsize own the fact that there is no will or strength behind there moves, and it shows that your in as much danger as ud be if u were fighting a person out for ur blood, because of that you do not have to use as much lethal moves as you would for a person trying to kill u.

C: control - however strong ur opponent may be, or how deadly they are after u first analyze ur opponent. next is 2 disable ur opponenet through taking control of ur opponent, if u just keep kicking and punching that person then unless u land a lucky shot then that person will probably just keep coming. and even if u do that could just make them even more angry which would raise the level of threat ur opponent is,instead take control of ur opponenet to stop them from being able to fight u anymore, and make the person like an action figure( your the one controling it , making it move, etc.) now they only do what u let them. there are many ways to do this, some by grappling, others by take downs whatever takes control that person.

and last 2nd D: destroy- simple as that once ur opponent has been takin conrtol of continue to do that but this is where u use strikes in succesion with ur conrtol taking moves. example: u have ur opponent in a arm trap and they cant get there other over to hit u. ( control) while that person is in the arm lock, knee him attack him to the face with a mantis backfist or another move, break his arm ( if that person had a level of threat needed for that) than take that arm and use it to throw them and after they are own the ground crush them under ur foot with a stomp.( if needed) and u have stoped that person from attacking, in other words destroyed. and thats my strategy in a nutshell, please reply to this and give me ur oppinion own this theory, it might need some work so i would love some helpful criticism.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like think this is good either for the ring or the street.

A. Analyzing is a good thing, but you are WAY overanalyzing anything that you will have time for in a fight. Fights start and end quickly. you don't have time to analyze stance - many times there will not even be a stance, just a sudden strike. I see / participate bar fights all the time. rarely does anyone assume any stance. I don't even assume a stance until after the fighting has begun, and while that is going on, things are too intense to be focusing on what stance a person is in. Also, by the way they are attacking, you cannot asset what intent they intend to do to you. I may only be punching you now because I don't see the bottle on the bar next to me. Once I see it, BAM! Also, with the high stress of the situation, you don't have time to think "Okay, I need to use lethal moves against this guy" you just use what comes out, which is going to be what is ingrained in you.

From a sport fighting perspective, you are usually told what style the guy practices beforehand, and if you do your legwork, can probably get video of the guy fighting, unless it's a local event. In this case, you do all of your analysis before the fight and train accordingly. I think your A is valid, but not in the context you are trying to put it.

C. you can strike and control a person. It's a boxing term called stalking. I keep you in the quadrant of the ring that I want you in by using aggressive footwork, making angles and cutting you off.

From a street perspective, it's not necessarily relying on a lucky punch. It's doing as you are trained - punching in combination. one shot may not KO him, but three or four might. I do agree that the easiest method to control him is grappling. However, by grappling, you do have to be careful that there are no other attackers. doesn't always happen that way, but it can happen.

D. Is the ultimate goal anyway... that's merely ending the confrontation and is not strategy related.

i did not say to look at the stance ur opponent is in that was a post made by another member, true sometimes u can tell alot about the way ur opponent might fight if u actually have time 2 do it, but like u said that seldom comes. i merely said analyze to know ur threat level a person, who is high own X and crack is obviously going to be more dangerous to u than a really fat guy having a bad day.

[MizuRyu]

True, in many altercations you will not see a stance, in that case, their legs are weak, which could be a stance in itself, and you just do what you deem necessary. If they throw a 'sudden' strike, without you having any eye contact with them whatsoever, then nothing will help you. Most of the time they're going to build the aggression, yell, point, puff up, then strike. We're taught to watch the chest, not the face, the face doesn't tell you anything about what's going to happen, and you can't see their legs.

If they USE a stance, is what I should say, you should be able to crumple it RIGHT off the bat. If they don't, do it anyway, but it'll be much easier. They throw a jab, slip it and boot them in the kneecap, they're not going to be standing on that knee anymore. If they throw a hook, taan, stomp. Very simple, and a quick way to stop someone.