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i always start out with nidan, and go to san dan after the nukite.

heh, i might have to try that.

i definately think sandan is harder, its got the kiba dachi in it which i found really annoying as a beginner, and it took me ages to get that 360 turn right. then those sweepy kicks/stamps/things. nidan is just standard basics really, except for the beginning.

"Gently return to the simple physical sensation of the breath. Then do it again, and again, and again. Somewhere in this process, you will come face-to-face with the sudden and shocking realization that you are completely crazy. Your mind is a shrieking, gibbering madhouse on wheels." - ven. henepola gunaratana
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so does anyone know why pinan shodan/heian nidan was originally the first kata? its considerably more complicated than pinan nidan/heian shodan. its something i've never quite understood.

For us, it isn't. Hein Shodan is first for us. (of the colour belt katas. We have "Kihon Kata" before that)

yeah, same for us. i was just wondering why heian nidan was originally the first one, before funakoshi changed it.

Me too considering.....

Heian Shodan = Peaceful Mind, Beginner Step (sometimes 1st Step)

Heian Nidan = Peaceful Mind, Second Step

Heian Sandan = Peaceful Mind, Third Step etc etc

If you do it the other way around, second step comes before beginner.... weird.

The mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open.

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i always start out with nidan, and go to san dan after the nukite.

heh, i might have to try that.

i definately think sandan is harder, its got the kiba dachi in it which i found really annoying as a beginner, and it took me ages to get that 360 turn right. then those sweepy kicks/stamps/things. nidan is just standard basics really, except for the beginning.

i agree tht sandan is harder but nidan is not a easy kata and can be forgot quite easily

:karate:

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