Brady Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 Maybe someone can help me. I train in Shorin-ryu Karate, and at the begining of every class we bow in, much the same as everyone else, I suppose. The highest ranking student leads the bow in, and I have recently become a high enough rank that sometimes that responsibility falls to me. The problem is that I have no idea what we are saying. I know the responses, but not the first command. I know that in English it amounts to basically "Turn around and straighten your obi and gi," but we speak in Japanese... any help would be appreciated. (And save me from future embarrassment.) Thanks.B "You can't learn karate from a book. You gotta paint the fence."
Zorbasan Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 just ask your instructor. there is nothing wrong with asking questions about stuff you dont understand. Now you use head for something other than target.
armanox Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 When we bow in at my dojo, we use the following (after the students are in line):Seiza (kneel)Sensei ni rei (Bow toward sensei)[students say] Onegaishimasu (Please teach me) "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky
Shui Tora Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 I s'pose it could be something like this;" O mawasu no mawari anata no gi to obi o massugu ni suru..."But then some Dojo's would pronounce it differently...Or, to save embarressment, just ask your Sensei... Quote;" He who asks is a fool for 5 minutes... He who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime..." To know the road ahead; ask those coming back... ~ Chinese Proverb" The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the perfection of the character of its participants. " ~ Master Funakoshi
l32 Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 When I did Shotokan and we bowed in in Japanese this is what we said:Shomen Ni Rey: Which meant face the flags, stand at attention, and bowSensei Ni Rey: Which meant face the instructor, stand at attention and bowNow that I am in TKD, my instructor does half Korean and half English instruction and I am almost always the high rank. There, we say:Face the flag, Cha Ryut Kyong YetFace the instructor, Kyong YetI'd say ask your instructor if you are unsure because different schools and different styles all bow in differently
June1 Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 Wow... This is the first I'm hearing of this bowing-in system. It sounds awesome! We don't have this at all at my school. Although it's Shotokan, it's not as traditional as I thought... "He who asks is a fool for 5 minutes... He who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime..." <---------- This is great. Kool Kiais: ICE! DIE! KITES! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHH! KIAI!"Know Thyself""Circumstances make me who I am."
Shui Tora Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 ^ I have plenty of those where they came from! If you need any of a particular subject, do ask! To know the road ahead; ask those coming back... ~ Chinese Proverb" The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the perfection of the character of its participants. " ~ Master Funakoshi
P.A.L Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 ask your instructor, the Japanise way of bowing in is a bit different from okinawan , in shorin ryu if you are the first student , when the class starts you first say "shoman ni rey" or the sensei may say this part, when he turns back toward the class you say "sensei ni rey"at the end of the class first you say "sensei ni rey" then he/she turns back for "shoman ni rey".
Shui Tora Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 I dunno if many Shotokan (or Okinawan) practionners (sp?) do this, but if we bow to our Sensei, our feet are together; but if we bow to the class (juniors/students) we have our feet slightly open.OUr Sensei would say "Rei!" and we would reply by saying; "Sensei, hai!" and that's it! The lesson begins. To know the road ahead; ask those coming back... ~ Chinese Proverb" The ultimate aim of Karate lies not in victory or defeat, but in the perfection of the character of its participants. " ~ Master Funakoshi
armanox Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 I dunno if many Shotokan (or Okinawan) practionners (sp?) do this, but if we bow to our Sensei, our feet are together; but if we bow to the class (juniors/students) we have our feet slightly open.OUr Sensei would say "Rei!" and we would reply by saying; "Sensei, hai!" and that's it! The lesson begins.Responding with "Yes teacher"? Different. We do standing bow with feet together I think. Also, when we just have one of the lower black belts (Nidan, etc), we use either Sempai ni Rei, or just a stading bow with Rei. "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky
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