Point of most power

[granmasterchen]

then there is also the final "snap" at the end of extention to compensate when all levels of the limb are now snapped at once into perfect alignment.....this is definitely not a stupid question but a very advanced question that you should be proud of to start a thread about.

[TigerDude]

A towel is really a different effect. It is the bull-whip effect that gives the fast movement at the tip of a towel.

[Zorbasan]

true, but still, it isnt possible to get more power half way through it than at the end. same really goes for striking. there are some exceptions tho, an upset punch (a close in punch where the fist is facing up at the end rather than down) is probable more powerful where it finishes, which is with the arm bent not extended, but this is because there is no rotation on the fist. it still wouldnt be as powerful as a fully extended regular punch.

[bushido_man96]

true, but still, it isnt possible to get more power half way through it than at the end. same really goes for striking. there are some exceptions tho, an upset punch (a close in punch where the fist is facing up at the end rather than down) is probable more powerful where it finishes, which is with the arm bent not extended, but this is because there is no rotation on the fist. it still wouldnt be as powerful as a fully extended regular punch.

You don't rotate your wrist for an upset punch? That is different. We rotate it, starting with the knuckles up, instead of down. Try it, you can get some good snap.

[alsey]

zorbasan, a fully extended punch is finished. its not moving. you have to hit the target when the knuckles are moving fastest, then complete the punch as everything comes to a stop.

[Zorbasan]

ok, so its not fully extended, but just before.

yes, the fisted is rotated from facing down to facing up, but what i was getting at was that if you do a fully extended punch rotating that way it will not be as powerful and more likely to cause injury.

[alsey]

the way i do it, the punch has twisted 3/4 of the way round when contact as made. the last 1/4 of twist is part of the follow through as everything reaches full extention.

[parkerlineage]

the way i do it, the punch has twisted 3/4 of the way round when contact as made. the last 1/4 of twist is part of the follow through as everything reaches full extention.

That's an interesting way of doing it...I haven't thought too much about it, but I think we're probably 7/8 or just all the way turned by the time we hit.

[alsey]

another reason for it is that at the 3/4 twist position, the fist fits nicely into a lot of skeletal weak points; the solar plexus and under the jaw for example.

[Jiffy]

In the reality of combat, the difference in rotation will make little difference. Rotation is important to ensure a more powerful technique and to prevent injury to the tendons and ligaments, but correct distance and timing are more important.

I wasn't going to mention this, but since it's come up here is a though of mine.... (please do not duplicate as I am including this in a book I'm writing)

Power in a Martial Context is the relationship between the following elements....

M - Mass

I - Inertia

M - Muscle Tension

E - Efficiency

I won't expand just yet, but will instead leave that as food for thought and discussion.