Fight Science

[TriangleMan]

Lastly, I wanted to see if I could get a charity started for the TKD guy so he could buy himself a shirt...... I'll put down money says he does XMA.

Very funny! Looking at the way he did that series of kicks towards the end of the show, I would guess XMA and probably a lot of olympic style sparring.

Yeah, and what the hell was with him going to town on the ballistics gel with the samurai sword? I mean come on guys use your heads- this they do immediately after showing someone who holds titles in sword cutting (which means he obviously knows how to swing a sword). Then we go and have a korean stylist swinging a japanese weapon...... go figure

[bushido_man96]

Lastly, I wanted to see if I could get a charity started for the TKD guy so he could buy himself a shirt...... I'll put down money says he does XMA.

Very funny! Looking at the way he did that series of kicks towards the end of the show, I would guess XMA and probably a lot of olympic style sparring.

Yeah, and what the hell was with him going to town on the ballistics gel with the samurai sword? I mean come on guys use your heads- this they do immediately after showing someone who holds titles in sword cutting (which means he obviously knows how to swing a sword). Then we go and have a korean stylist swinging a japanese weapon...... go figure

Yeah, and I also thought his bo staff demo on the body replica was kind of different. They made comments about the weapon breaking....it broke because it was designed for competition, not because he was swinging it hard. If he would have used a good solid oak bo, with some thickness to it, I don't think it would have broken.

[parkerlineage]

Yeah, and I also thought his bo staff demo on the body replica was kind of different. They made comments about the weapon breaking....it broke because it was designed for competition, not because he was swinging it hard. If he would have used a good solid oak bo, with some thickness to it, I don't think it would have broken.

I thought that as soon as he pulled it out.

Yeah, and what the hell was with him going to town on the ballistics gel with the samurai sword? I mean come on guys use your heads- this they do immediately after showing someone who holds titles in sword cutting (which means he obviously knows how to swing a sword). Then we go and have a korean stylist swinging a japanese weapon...... go figure

But the actual sword guy was wearing a shirt. We can't have that!

[bushido_man96]

Yeah, and I also thought his bo staff demo on the body replica was kind of different. They made comments about the weapon breaking....it broke because it was designed for competition, not because he was swinging it hard. If he would have used a good solid oak bo, with some thickness to it, I don't think it would have broken.

I thought that as soon as he pulled it out.

Yeah, and what the hell was with him going to town on the ballistics gel with the samurai sword? I mean come on guys use your heads- this they do immediately after showing someone who holds titles in sword cutting (which means he obviously knows how to swing a sword). Then we go and have a korean stylist swinging a japanese weapon...... go figure

But the actual sword guy was wearing a shirt. We can't have that!

That ain't right!

[HG]

In terms of experimental design, Fight Science fails miserably. They not only use only ONE practicioner as example for each "type" of art (never mind that each 'style' has many schools within. They also use people of different ages and different size, weight, height and body type. Probably they have different levels of proficiency.

For example the Muay Thai guy, Melchor, is pretty well-known, while the other guys are pretty obscure. So there is no way to tell if it is fair to compare them. The Karate dude I never heard of in my life, and his technique didnt seem to good to me according to traditonal karate standards. And so on.

Another example, They use a strong, heavy person to represent boxing and a small, athletic person for kung-fu. Based on what these representatives do, they conclude that boxing punches the hardest while kung-fu punches the fastest. Obviously, they have rigged the results from the beggining, based on their preconceptions about the art, and because they use a sample size of ONE!? for each style.

Conclusion? "Fight Science" was in fact not scientific at all, statistically speaking. Fancy technology doth not science make.

You make some good points. My biggest pet peev is they used a Wushu performer to represent TCMA.

[Jiffy]

I guess when it comes to TV, you need to remember that it's more about entertainment then correct factual information.

[Ace2021]

As soon as they showed the people punching and the numbers for it, I knew it was stupid. It might be a good show and all, but I couldn't take most of the data seriously. Of course a Boxing guy that has at least 100lbs more than the Kung Fu guy is going to hit harder, least they could've done was got a lightweight/featherweight to hit it, then compare.

And the karate guy should've used a traditional karate punch..I don't even know what to call what he did.

[matbla]

a little more sparring other then tat it was o.k.

from matt blake

[DragonMike]

I enjoyed it, but you do have to take it with a grain of salt. I think they tried to get people with body types that are stereotypical of the arts they represent.

But, you can't say that one fighter makes for concret evidence, but it is good for conversation.

[Jiffy]

Exactly right. It's just a case of entertainment with a hint of fact. If it sparks a discussion like this one, then I guess it has done a good thing.