Sport, street fighting, and personal growth....

[YODA]

 

 

[ This Message was edited by: YODA on 2002-06-02 10:34 ]

[Dojo02]

i do agree with most of the article except the part where he talks about sport techiniques can be used for street defense. I dont really need to go in depth for that one but in terms of sport karate, not judo or juijitsu, i dont really think you can use techniques in such defense situations. I dont think you can ever use it except in the ring. Look regardless if its judo or karate sport it doesn't matter a street fight will always be unpreditable and how many "black belts" have fallen to a street attacker. But the article was a good read and i do agree with most of the answers.

[YODA]

He's not talking about sport Karate. He's talking about Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling, BJJ etc - combat sports that compete realistically with no complience.

 

 

[striking_cobra]

that really was a great article, i agree completly with the part where it talked about "dorks in cammo with knives" (i know guys like that!) one of them even started training with a "kung fu master" so he says and now he claims he can beat anyone any time...(i just let that go...if he wants to fantasize who am i to stop him?)

 

also i wanted to address the part that mentioned slightly altering techniques for street fighting...i train bjj (you may or may not know) and every now and again our teacher will demonstrate where different strikes might be more practicle (than going for submission) in a "real" fight.

 

i give this thread two thumbs up

 

 

[CTpizzaboy]

Awesome article. I like the part where he said that only a small percentage of students actually compete. Most are there to learn what they can do or can't do, and to have a good time. There is no illusions that they can be the next Bruce Lee or be able to beat up a football player. In reality, the weight difference is the main factor in "just get an ass beating", or "your head rip off and shove up your ass". That's why boxing have weight categories; that's why NHB competetions have weight categories.

[Bon]

I STRONGLY disagree that self-defense or street fighting is a dead end.

 

 

[YODA]

Me too

 

I think what he's trying to say though, is that training for self defence without training athletically and without pressure testing what you do against a fully resisting opponent is a no-no.

you could take a very good boxer, and in a manner of minutes teach him to open his hands, how to strike the eyes, etc, and he would be very

 

effective. However, if you took someone who knows no boxing, and has

 

never done any sparring, and teach him or her just "streetfighting

 

eye boinks" they will still get their ass kicked.

 

I know many who train in arts and never spar - because their stuff is just "too deadly" to spar with. This is utter hogwash. If you cannot test it you cannot apply it. He says elsewhere that in order to "add the dirty stuff" you must have a valid delivery system to add it too - a delivery system that you CAN spar & pressure test like boxing, Muay Thai, BJJ etc. Now THAT I agree with.

 

 

 

 

[Bon]

Yeap, making sense now. Should have read it more carefully..

 

Training athletically is a good point, 'cause you're going to need your fitness on the street as well, especially the quick anaerobic burst.