drunken kungfu effectivity

[alsey]

i'm justing saying that i've never seen kung fu people being offensive. i have seen a few videos where a boxer or karateka attacks a wing chun guy, and the wing chun guy disses them, but seriously, i can count on my fingers the times i've seen kung fu people going on the offensive.

kung fu may have offensive philosophies, i just never see that being put into practice. i probably just havn't seen enough.

[HG]

Kung Fu is undoubtable effective, but I think due to its slower learning curve it appears to be less effective against a practitioner of a different style with similar experience.

There is some truth to this. The inital learning curve can be quite steep at times. Those kung fu schools that train to fight usually do it well. Schools that focus only on forms performance never develop usable fighting skill & resort to kick boxing when sparring.

But when learned well enough, I think it is probably the most effective area of martial arts.

I think other styles of martial arts will disagree with you.

[elbows_and_knees]

Schools that focus only on forms performance never

you can't revert to something you've never trained. They don't revert to kickboxing, they revert ro their basics - it just so happens that the basics of several styles are similar.

[HG]

Schools that focus only on forms performance never

you can't revert to something you've never trained. They don't revert to kickboxing, they revert ro their basics - it just so happens that the basics of several styles are similar.

Based on experience thats what it looks like to me. I chose kick boxing for lack of a better word. You know it when you see it; who is using TCMA skill when fighting & who is not.

A good example is the video clip shown above. They sure moved tipsy stumbled around drunk but it only gave a false sense of confidence that was quicky beat out of them. There was no demonstration of basic fighting skills that TCMA drill from day one. As I stated before druken has a purpose but is no more or less effective than sober techniques.

[Traditional-Fist]

Case in point

why do kung fu people never attack? or why does no one ever film a kung fu guy making an attack? every video i see they just stand there and get hit.

I did not view this video, but if it is one that has been on before, against the kyokushin guys, they sparred according to kyokushin rules, with no hands to the head. That kind of takes away the straight blast advantage that many Kung-fu styles like to use.

Just a thought.

Furthermore, the way the Kyokushin guys sparred did not do justice to this great karate style. They might as well have been TKD guys as they seemed to be only using kicks. At one stage in one of the bouts the kung fu fighter grabs the karate-kai's leg at lets go apologetically [obviously no leg grabs were allowed either].

The last kung fu stylist to fight, and who was looking rather good but was only allowed a very short time to do his thing (the bout was mysteriously called to a halt), or at least it seemed that way.

The whole thing looked like a set up in favour of Kyokushin or at best an exhibition. It did not do kung fu any justice as it was not meant to. Ironically it did not, in my eyes, do any justice to the fine art of Kyokushinkai either.

[parkerlineage]

I really really really hate this video. The kyokushin guys are awful, the drunken boxing guys just kicking bags, and they just stop the fights randomly!!

As far as I know, the idea behind drunken boxing is to be loose and deceptive. When I fight, I try to follow this principle - sometimes weaving back and forth or appearing off balance can be very effective into luring your opponent into something, or disguising your own intent.

As for why kung fu guys never attack - I don't know. Haven't watched enough videos is my guess.

[patusai]

Effectiveness pretty much always depends on the skill of the person using the style. Just my opinion based on what I have seen.

[muadib]

you study kung fu to avoid fights

[Ace2021]

This is coming from a Kyokushin Karateka interested in Wing Chun:

I'm not sure what the rules were but those kyokushin guys, as said above, did not do justice to the great karate style.

Kung Fu, and any style, is as good as the practioner.

[alsey]

nice! that's more like what i want to see from kung fu.