Lau gar Posted April 30, 2002 Posted April 30, 2002 Should you know how to kill someone blue belt Lau Gar Kung fu"know your enemy"
G95champ Posted April 30, 2002 Posted April 30, 2002 Well one could argue that anything is deadly. However as far as teaching certin techinques I think you must wait until you can trust a students. This usually is not possilbe below black belt leval. Never teach it to beginers or people who are not under control. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
Taikudo-ka Posted May 2, 2002 Posted May 2, 2002 True. Most kids learn at a young age that stabbing someone or shooting them with a gun will probably kill them. Most schoolteachers know that blows to the temple or back or skull (among others) are particularly dangerous, especially to children, who's skulls are softer. My mother (a teacher) specifically warned me against hitting anyone in these locations, because of the potentially lethal consequences. I also remember in high school one bully going around applying some sort of choker hold to other kids. One poor kid did actually pass out, resulting in a bloodied face and nose as he connected with the concrete, and he was pretty dazed for a while. Actually I think the recent spates of high school shootings show that the most lethal combination is a heavily bullied child with access to firearms. So yeah, I guess anything can be dangerous. Techniques can filter down in the playground to those who shouldn't really have them. I suppose a case could be made to keep these things secret. My question is, would you want your own child to know effective, even potentially lethal moves, if it would save them even once from an attacker? Or would you prefer they did some relatively "hamless" sports art, so as not to accidentally harm anyone? KarateForums.com - Sempai
tessone Posted May 2, 2002 Posted May 2, 2002 Personally, I want my kids to study Kuk Sool (as long as they enjoy it). The important thing is that the kids know when to use their knowledge and when not to. I wouldn't hold my child back from getting a black belt for fear of him or her hurting someone, because I'd also be teaching etiquette, respect, and pacifism (except in the face of real danger). Chris TessoneBrown Belt, Kuk Sool Won
Bitseach Posted May 3, 2002 Posted May 3, 2002 No, I think arts that emphasise deadly moves as part of their appeal encourage the egos of weak people who want to feel more powerful by having these "elite" or "secret" fighting methods at their fingertips. It encourages the worst sort of martial artist - someone who wants to use them to control others, or to make themselves threatening or dangerous. Deadly methods should only be taught to those who may have to use them in deadly combat - the military. To all others they should only be taught as in a warning not to hit someone too hard in a certain point, else you might kill them. We should teach minimal force, not lethal force, if we wish our MAs to edify society, not to become another problem in it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~My karma will run over your dogma~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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