Shudokan Kata

[daizyblackbelt]

shihan mack is my sensei's sensei. i see him regularly at tournaments.

so far as i know, which is pretty well as i am an intsructor at my school, he has not added any more pinan katas beyond the traditional 5.

[deshi]

soshin (so-SHEEN) is the first in a line of shudokan katas which are:

-soshin

-kakoshin

-choshin

.

What would the translations be for each? Thanks

I have learned the kanji for each, but since my mother tongue is neither

Japanese nor English, I can only try to hint at a translation:

"shin" is written in all three cases with the character also pronounced as

"kokoro", meaning "heart/mind"

"so" is the character which the online Kanji dictionary translates as "principle"

or "prime (number)", I understand it also as "essential, without any additions",

so maybe soshin = essential mind

"kaku" (not kako) means to wake up, like in "alarm clock"

so maybe kakushin = awake(ned) mind

"cho" is written like in "to clear, to become transparent"

so maybe choshin = clear/pure heart/mind

the idea is that of a lake without ripplings so that you can see

through to the ground

I have been taught the kanji by my hanshi, but possible errors

in the attempts at translation are mine

I hope this helps.

Best regards to all readers (this is my first post in this forum).

deshi

[legkicker]

shihan mack is my sensei's sensei. i see him regularly at tournaments.

so far as i know, which is pretty well as i am an intsructor at my school, he has not added any more pinan katas beyond the traditional 5.

That's good to hear, I'm going to ask my friend about it but she seemd pretty adamant about a pinan roku-jyu.

[bushido_man96]

soshin (so-SHEEN) is the first in a line of shudokan katas which are:

-soshin

-kakoshin

-choshin

.

What would the translations be for each? Thanks

I have learned the kanji for each, but since my mother tongue is neither

Japanese nor English, I can only try to hint at a translation:

"shin" is written in all three cases with the character also pronounced as

"kokoro", meaning "heart/mind"

"so" is the character which the online Kanji dictionary translates as "principle"

or "prime (number)", I understand it also as "essential, without any additions",

so maybe soshin = essential mind

"kaku" (not kako) means to wake up, like in "alarm clock"

so maybe kakushin = awake(ned) mind

"cho" is written like in "to clear, to become transparent"

so maybe choshin = clear/pure heart/mind

the idea is that of a lake without ripplings so that you can see

through to the ground

I have been taught the kanji by my hanshi, but possible errors

in the attempts at translation are mine

I hope this helps.

Best regards to all readers (this is my first post in this forum).

deshi

Welcome to the forums! Glad to have you.

[patusai]

[quote name="bushido_man96

I have learned the kanji for each' date=' but since my mother tongue is neither

Japanese nor English, I can only try to hint at a translation:

"shin" is written in all three cases with the character also pronounced as

"kokoro", meaning "heart/mind"

"so" is the character which the online Kanji dictionary translates as "principle"

or "prime (number)", I understand it also as "essential, without any additions",

so maybe soshin = essential mind

"kaku" (not kako) means to wake up, like in "alarm clock"

so maybe kakushin = awake(ned) mind

"cho" is written like in "to clear, to become transparent"

so maybe choshin = clear/pure heart/mind

the idea is that of a lake without ripplings so that you can see

through to the ground

I have been taught the kanji by my hanshi, but possible errors

in the attempts at translation are mine

I hope this helps.

Best regards to all readers (this is my first post in this forum).

deshi[/quote]

Welcome to the forums! Glad to have you.

Thank you. I kinda get the Shin part. Soshin could translate to Complete Heart (So can mean complete or all. Although, I don't know for sure. So can mean many things. I guess a Shudokan specialist would need to answer this one to be sure.

Thanks

[Sojiro47]

That's good to hear, I'm going to ask my friend about it but she seemd pretty adamant about a pinan roku-jyu.

I train under Shihan Morris Mack, and I will second the fact that there are only 5 pinans. Shudokan only has 5.

Edited September 24, 2006 by Sojiro47

[daizyblackbelt]

for those of you who were interested, i'm sorry i haven't posted videos.

i've been down with a case of mono and unable to do pretty much anything. I'm FINALLY starting to recover so hopefully i'll get something up eventually.

sojiro, always good to see another shudokan parctitioner. there aren't too many of us!

[Sojiro47]

I'm just wondering, but how many of you out there do a Kata called Nana Ju Shi?

Edited September 24, 2006 by Sojiro47

[daizyblackbelt]

aaaaaah, nana ju shi!

I learned that one up in yakima from shihan mack and one of his sons. I think it was Marlin?

very similar in many ways to gojushiho, but much different also. i wish i could remember it, but i only picked it up very briefly.

[Sojiro47]

Yeah, I was at that seminar. Sensei Marlin, Sensei Toby and Shihon Mack taught it. I was Ichi Kyu when I learned it. I was wondering because I was at one of our tests when some of the participants used it as a test Kata, so I wanted to see how many people here know it.