[Attention grapplers] Kenpo 5.0

[BLueDevil]

That was baaaaaaaaaaaad BLueDevil...but very funny...

*takes a bow*

[bushido_man96]

I can understand his attempts to incorporate ground grappling into his curriculum, however why must he insist on doing it himself when he clearly is at the level of a novice at best?

That in my opinion is the problem with so many martial arts instructors who try to go outside their boundries- It will take anyone, regardless of who they are, many years of training in order to become adept at a particular phase of fighting. Speakman is a black belt in kempo, not jiu jitsu. For some reason, many of these black belts feel that because they are a black belt they can develop a couple of techniques and sell them right away, even though theyve only been working on the material for a few months.

You dont exactly see World BJJ Champion Marcio Pe de Pano releasing his newest video in Muay Thai fighting, you know what I mean?

Good point, good point.

[gateqway]

I can understand his attempts to incorporate ground grappling into his curriculum, however why must he insist on doing it himself when he clearly is at the level of a novice at best?

That in my opinion is the problem with so many martial arts instructors who try to go outside their boundries- It will take anyone, regardless of who they are, many years of training in order to become adept at a particular phase of fighting. Speakman is a black belt in kempo, not jiu jitsu. For some reason, many of these black belts feel that because they are a black belt they can develop a couple of techniques and sell them right away, even though theyve only been working on the material for a few months.

You dont exactly see World BJJ Champion Marcio Pe de Pano releasing his newest video in Muay Thai fighting, you know what I mean?

I thank both ps1 and TriangleMan for your comments and will take a further look into those technique as I discuss them with my instructor. I didn't want to be one of those ignorent people thinking that my system's techniques are perfect, so I appreciated the help.

To give an answer as to why he performed the demonstration himself, simply because he's the head of the organisation and he is the person responsible for introducing these new techniques. It would be much more official if he did himself on his official website dont ya think?

As to what level the techniques are, I don't know, that's why I started this post in the first place.

I do believe in the future, these technique will be further improved/ modified as alot of our previous Kenpo technique did.

Once again, thanks.

One more thing, do anybody know of any video clips that would demonstrate defences of such situations. I would like to do a lil comparison just for fun.

[TriangleMan]

This is a preview of some of the Gracie Self Defense Tapes

http://www.gracieacademy.com/street1vid.html

Speakman appeared to give up the clinch when he decided to jump guard. Jumping guard isnt exactly something you want to do often in a fight, especially if your standup is your strong point. The clinch does not equal a takedown, theres alot of fighting that can be done from there, and some basic wrestling is all he would need to help make his system alot better.

[parkerlineage]

I finally actually watched the whole video. I like it - I don't see how it's Kenpo, but I like it. I'd prefer to see more striking, but that's just the traditional Chinese Kenpo speaking.

[bushido_man96]

I finally actually watched the whole video. I like it - I don't see how it's Kenpo, but I like it. I'd prefer to see more striking, but that's just the traditional Chinese Kenpo speaking.

You can add the striking, that's the easy part.

[ps1]

This is a preview of some of the Gracie Self Defense Tapes

http://www.gracieacademy.com/street1vid.html

Speakman appeared to give up the clinch when he decided to jump guard. Jumping guard isnt exactly something you want to do often in a fight, especially if your standup is your strong point. The clinch does not equal a takedown, theres alot of fighting that can be done from there, and some basic wrestling is all he would need to help make his system alot better.

Thanks for the link. Good points made Triangle.

I finally actually watched the whole video. I like it - I don't see how it's Kenpo, but I like it. I'd prefer to see more striking, but that's just the traditional Chinese Kenpo speaking.

For the most part strikes are a pretty futile thing from the position he's putting himself in. I don't care who you are, when you take away your root and ability to use your hips your strikes are done. Triangle was correct in saying Speakman should be trying to stand here. It would actually be much easier to escape and stand than to use the grappling sequence Speakman's proposed.

Additionally, when it comes to self defense techniques, does it really matter if it's traditional as long as it works? Tradition is good for learning about other cultures and cultivating spirit, which will go a long way. But your skill set can still change/evolve/grow while retaining tradition. Tradition is about much more than what techniques you teach and when. It's about creating a connection with the past and understanding how you/your art got to where you are today and the people that contributed to that rich history. Tradition does not equate to being stagnant and unweilding in thought. I think I'm reading too much into your statement here parkerlineage, but I just had to vent a little. I apologize for taking it out in a reply to your post. It just annoys me when people hide behind the guise of tradition to justify their stuborness or lack of understaning.

The fact is if you are having to jump guard or defend an applied guillotine, you are already extremely late in your defense of the situation. As Triangle pointed out, pummeling and other clinch drills/ defending the takedown would be more easily applied to a standfighter's skill set. I mean, look at Chuck Lidell. He's a stander who's been very successful in the UFC because he has good takedown defense. He sucks people into standing with him...BIG MISTAKE on their part!

[parkerlineage]

You did read a little too much into what I said, but that's okay.

What I was saying was that the desire to strike is the Kenpo engrained in my head. I recognize that it's virutally impossible to strike effectively from the ground, and that it's a bad idea to go away from your strenghts. Venting is cool, though - we all need to do it every once in a while.

[ps1]

thanks

[Adonis]

He wasn't totally flat on his back when he attempted the elevator sweep. He did scoot his hips out, then placed the foot on the hip before getting his hook in to sweep him.