P.A.L Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 When do you guys learn Seisan? We actually learn it at Rokokyu level, much earlier than some systems. I understand that it had only been taught at black belt until recently in Shorin-ryu, but I'm not sure if that is just with the Shobayashi branch.With respect,SohanWe don't practice Seisan in shorinkan, i got the kata through shobayashi lineage. what style of shorin ryu do you practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohan Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 When do you guys learn Seisan? We actually learn it at Rokokyu level, much earlier than some systems. I understand that it had only been taught at black belt until recently in Shorin-ryu, but I'm not sure if that is just with the Shobayashi branch.With respect,SohanWe don't practice Seisan in shorinkan, i got the kata through shobayashi lineage. what style of shorin ryu do you practice?Shobayashi Shorin-ryu. Our Grandmaster is Eizo Shimabuku from Okinawa.With respect,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanox Posted July 25, 2006 Author Share Posted July 25, 2006 We teach Seisan after Naifanchin Sandan and before Pinan Shodan.So, it's the last kata one learns as a white belt (gokyu) before green(yonkyu).We do Kobayashi Shorin Ryu http://kobayashiusa.com/Images/Lineage.jpg "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanox Posted July 25, 2006 Author Share Posted July 25, 2006 I thought the Shotokan stances were deeper than the Okinawan styles? I was surprised to see that your stances were almost like cat stances, and I mentioned this to my sensei this evening and he made the same comment.Ummm.....they are cat stances. Two of the three black belts in the clip also hold dan ranks in Shotokan, but they sink as deep as Miyagi stressed. When Miyagi first visited the states, his first class with them was nothing but stance work, pressing the importance of good stances, and sinking down. "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohan Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I thought the Shotokan stances were deeper than the Okinawan styles? I was surprised to see that your stances were almost like cat stances, and I mentioned this to my sensei this evening and he made the same comment.Ummm.....they are cat stances. Two of the three black belts in the clip also hold dan ranks in Shotokan, but they sink as deep as Miyagi stressed. When Miyagi first visited the states, his first class with them was nothing but stance work, pressing the importance of good stances, and sinking down.Apparently so, but the cat stances in the video are a bit different from ours, and more numerous in the kata.With respect,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanox Posted July 25, 2006 Author Share Posted July 25, 2006 Indeed the cat stance is probably the most used stance in our style. "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malanovaus Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 That is very, very different than the version of Seisan that I practice. Interesting to see different variations though. MalanovausOkinawan Goju-RyuKarate ni sente nashiThe answers are on the floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armanox Posted July 30, 2006 Author Share Posted July 30, 2006 If anyone could link a copy of their version of Seisan for comparison that would be appreciated...... "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patusai Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 The kata as performed is somewhat similar to the one I learned in Isshin Ryu. The Seisan that you perform has some added middle outside blocks at the beginning and the ending sequence of kicks are a bit different. It is interesting to see how Seisan is similar in some respects and different in other respects. Thanks "Don't tell me the sky's the limit because I have seen footprints on the moon!" -- Paul Brandt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousOne Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Are they really Shodans performing that???? 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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