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Ah, MMA is the best full contact sport out there for figuring out what's 'the best' it's based off of Vale-Tudo, which just means 'anything-goes' and that showed consistantly (the first UFCs were Vale-Tudo (1 & 2)) that, a background in grappliing AND striking were favorable (most of the Gracies know Judo, BJJ, and Muay Thai, don't let them lie to you :wink: ) now anyways the discussion's about the scoring system, not the sports effectiveness.

Anyways, like I said, the best judge of who won would definately take into account who was trying to stop the fight (i.e. Rashad did nothing w/ his takedown) therefore his points for the takedown should be negated, however if Bonnar got a takedown, and started going for subs (ankle-locks, neck cranks, anything) or started working ground and pound he'd get points for the TD. sounds like a better use of TD points, no?

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I have watched UFC, apparently not enough it seems.

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The best victory is when the opponent surrenders

of its own accord before there are any actual

hostilities...It is best to win without fighting.

- Sun-tzu

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It hink that's relative. Any full contact system which concentrates on just one aspect of fighting (take downs, grappling) isn't the ultimate, imho.

Several UFC fights have been ended in the stand fighting range. Lidell v. Ortiz, Lidell v. CotureII and III. Just to name a few. And those were three of the bigest names in the sport. All of them ended in KO from striking while standing. To say take downs and grappling is all it's about would be very false.

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."

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It hink that's relative. Any full contact system which concentrates on just one aspect of fighting (take downs, grappling) isn't the ultimate, imho.

Several UFC fights have been ended in the stand fighting range. Lidell v. Ortiz, Lidell v. CotureII and III. Just to name a few. And those were three of the bigest names in the sport. All of them ended in KO from striking while standing. To say take downs and grappling is all it's about would be very false.

Yeah, we're pretty much agreed on that. Cathal just needs to buckle down and watch some more UFC :D Don't we all!

If it works, use it!

If not, throw it out!

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