parkerlineage Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I have come to the conclusion that if one thinks about a weapon in terms of this quote that keeps coming to mind that I believe I heard somewhere, but if I didn't, I'm totally copywriting it: "The master of a weapon uses no weapon," by which I mean the weapon is merely an extension of the body, one can literally transfer empty-hand or other weapon skills to learn the basics of nearly any weapon. Now, there are many weapons (ie. whip chain, rope dart) that I would never dream of trying with this philosophy (I like my eyes, and other body parts), but the sai can be viewed as another wrist, the kama can be viewed as another wrist with a hand permanently in a crane, the bo as some sort of weird, mutated arm that nevertheless ends in two hands with which you can strike, and has elbow capabilities, and the dao as another elbow (but without a wrist on that arm).Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying or even alluding that anyone could acheive any level of remote mastery by themself, but certainly enough basic skill that they could competently fight with them - if they practice realistic scenarios with the weapons - like bunkai, I suppose.Humbly submitted, and merely my opinion;Parkerlineage American Kenpo Karate- First Degree Black Belt"He who hesitates, meditates in a horizontal position."Ed Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UseoForce Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 It really wouldn't apply to any projectile weapon right? If it works, use it!If not, throw it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerlineage Posted June 30, 2006 Author Share Posted June 30, 2006 lol, no, unless you viewed it as...a gumby arm that could extend to a finite point in a straight or slightly curving line...hehe American Kenpo Karate- First Degree Black Belt"He who hesitates, meditates in a horizontal position."Ed Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordtariel Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 There's more to shooting a gun than pulling a trigger though. There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerlineage Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 As I learned yesterday (see "Guns in MA", General Forum). American Kenpo Karate- First Degree Black Belt"He who hesitates, meditates in a horizontal position."Ed Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu Alex Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 yup like martial arts using a gun right needs training White belt for life"Destroy the enemies power but leave his life" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I think you are correct in the sense that you can transfer basic skills to weapons use. By using what you know about your style, and body mechanics and such, and a little common sense, it could take you a little ways. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjanurse Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Weapons are extensions of the arms/hands. I often have my students hold escrima sticks while they do their basic techniques to illustrate this to them. "A Black Belt is only the beginning."Heidi-A student of the artsTae Kwon Do,Shotokan,Ju Jitsu,Modern Arnishttp://the100info.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gheinisch Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Great example Ninjanurse. We have a instructor who has been teaching us some escrima techniques. After we have learned the technique he would ask us to put the sticks down and apply the technique to empty hand. Very eye opening and a great way to learn transition from one to the other. We also use sai's in the Heian Sandan kata, very fun to do and not a hard transition. "If your hand goes forth withhold your temper""If your temper goes forth withold your hand"-Gichin Funakoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu Alex Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I just remebered a time i was doing Muto dori (unarmed against a sword) with a friend and due to training with the weighted chain i was ables to use my job id that has a littte like rope thiningy on it to tie his hands up out of instinct non the less we were all schocked if you do think about it and train your body will naturally see anything is a weapon White belt for life"Destroy the enemies power but leave his life" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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