UFC 61

[bushido_man96]

ummm.... Ken's never faught liddel, his last fight was kazushi sakuraba... who IMHO is one of the top fighters in the world, and albeit a little crazy, but losing to him is not a big deal, and it looked like a lucky punch, the one in a thousand shot, and IMO ken wasn't out.

here's shamrock's record : http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=4

I have not seen this fight. The last fight I saw him in was a UFC, and he did lose. Can't remember exactly who to, but thought it was Liddel. I remember Ken trying to throw a round kick, falling down, and then getting jumped on, and that ended it. He really didn't show that he had much in that match.

[Andrew_Patton]

haha... well, that fight would have been against Rich Franklin, not a great showing on ken's part (his boxing's amazing, his kicking... should never be used)

I have a conspiracy theorist friend who is an inactive former pro wrestler (WWF/E, WCW, and all-japan) who says that somewhere in that fight franklin missed some strike, and shamrock executed a perfect, textbook wrestling back-fall... seems to think it's a work, haven't seen that fight since he said that, but it's something to look into.