Breach of sparring etiquette

[parkerlineage]

Wow...I certainly didn't expect such a positive resopnse.

I talked with my sensei about it, and he said that perhaps they felt that since they had been away, they needed to prove themselves, and he approved my actions as well, which I knew he would.

Still sad, though.

My sensei would have all of our tails in a sling if he found out we were pounding on each other like that over ego issues.

So would mine, if he were there. He tends to be very laid back, though, and just told me, "Well, it sounds like you've handled it."

[bushido_man96]

Wow...I certainly didn't expect such a positive resopnse.

I talked with my sensei about it, and he said that perhaps they felt that since they had been away, they needed to prove themselves, and he approved my actions as well, which I knew he would.

Still sad, though.

My sensei would have all of our tails in a sling if he found out we were pounding on each other like that over ego issues.

So would mine, if he were there. He tends to be very laid back, though, and just told me, "Well, it sounds like you've handled it."

Good news to hear. I felt you were in the right.

[GOM]

Why would the instructor let them spar in the first place? They train in a different MA, have different techniques and a different sense of control.

What they did was stupid and immature, but the instructor out the front, if he had any brains, wouldn't have let them spar after such a long break from your dojo. Especially if they are training in a different MA.

[bushido_man96]

Why would the instructor let them spar in the first place? They train in a different MA, have different techniques and a different sense of control.

What they did was stupid and immature, but the instructor out the front, if he had any brains, wouldn't have let them spar after such a long break from your dojo. Especially if they are training in a different MA.

I don't really agree with you hear. Even if someone leaves your dojo, there is still a commaradarie you have with former students/classmates. If they left on good terms, then there is no way you would be able to determine their motives in sparring. Maybe they would just want to work out together for old times sake. Once the bad things start happening, then it has to be dealt with.

[parkerlineage]

I'm totally with bushido man on that one - we can't deny our brothers, even if they are morons. Plus, the instructor wasn't even there.

[GOM]

Why would the instructor let them spar in the first place? They train in a different MA, have different techniques and a different sense of control.

What they did was stupid and immature, but the instructor out the front, if he had any brains, wouldn't have let them spar after such a long break from your dojo. Especially if they are training in a different MA.

I don't really agree with you hear. Even if someone leaves your dojo, there is still a commaradarie you have with former students/classmates. If they left on good terms, then there is no way you would be able to determine their motives in sparring. Maybe they would just want to work out together for old times sake. Once the bad things start happening, then it has to be dealt with.

Look, for safety sake, a responsible instructor should be looking after the safety of their students. It isn't safe for someone to come in who trains at a different school, especially another MA, to come in and spar with the students. In my dojo, I don't allow students from different schools to spar with my students. They can train, yes, but not spar.

Look what happened at parkerlineage's dojo.

[glockmeister]

Whats wrong with sparrign against another style? There is always that chance that ina self defense situation some just might have been trained in or is using another style.

[bushido_man96]

Why would the instructor let them spar in the first place? They train in a different MA, have different techniques and a different sense of control.

What they did was stupid and immature, but the instructor out the front, if he had any brains, wouldn't have let them spar after such a long break from your dojo. Especially if they are training in a different MA.

I don't really agree with you hear. Even if someone leaves your dojo, there is still a commaradarie you have with former students/classmates. If they left on good terms, then there is no way you would be able to determine their motives in sparring. Maybe they would just want to work out together for old times sake. Once the bad things start happening, then it has to be dealt with.

Look, for safety sake, a responsible instructor should be looking after the safety of their students. It isn't safe for someone to come in who trains at a different school, especially another MA, to come in and spar with the students. In my dojo, I don't allow students from different schools to spar with my students. They can train, yes, but not spar.

Look what happened at parkerlineage's dojo.

As martial artists, we all like to think that we can learn something from each other, and that we all have something to gain from each other. After all, that is one of the reasons that these wonderful forums are here, right? That said, if I had my own dojang, and one of y'all were talking to me, and informed me of visiting my place (why you would visit Kansas, I am not sure ), then I would very much look forward to introducing you to my class, and hoping that we could work out together, ask questions of each other, and learn from each other.

Upon making this invitation, I would explain the policies of the dojang, how we work out, perform certain techniques, and then how we spar, and what rules we follow.

Now, that being said, the guys that parkerlineage had to deal with were people he knew, and people who knew what the rules and regulations of the dojo were. What parkerlineage's dojo did was not inexcusable; the reactions of the visitors was.

[kikr]

I hold 2nd dan in TKD but have had the honor of studying in multiple styles all over the world. Regardless of your past experiences, when you walk through the doors of a dojo its a brand new experience and should be approached as such. Many dojo's I've attended had an oath that was recited at the beginning of ever class, "I will never misuse the martial arts" was a key statement in all those oaths. Those gentlemen misused their art to. "I will be a champion of Justice" was another theme of those oaths. I can't say if what you did was right or not, I wasn't there. But I get the sense from your post that you had at least intended to champion for the weaker members of your school who were being bullied. That I can applaud. Good job!

[parkerlineage]

But I get the sense from your post that you had at least intended to champion for the weaker members of your school who were being bullied.

I certainly intended it to be so, and hope others saw it that way as well. Thank you - I have always been of the opinion that we far too often lose sight of what we as martial artists truly should be.