Who was Ichihara?

[juey palancu]

Greetings,

Does anybody know what style and what were the traditonal karate credentials of Minoki Ichihara, the 'karate master' guy who was beaten by Royce Gracie back in 1994?

just curious,

Gero

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nidan, traditional shotokan

[Traditional-Fist]

Greetings,

Does anybody know what style and what were the traditonal karate credentials of Minoki Ichihara, the 'karate master' guy who was beaten by Royce Gracie back in 1994?

just curious,

Gero

I believe that he was a respected fighter and a second dan holder from Daido Juku style of karate. He did last about 10 minutes with Gracie, which is more than many grapplers and MMA-ists could manage.

Kaido Juku karate is apparently a splinter style of Kyokushinkai. They seem to have less restrictions in competitions than the Kyokushinkai people. This means that they can use grappling, groin kicks and headbutts amongst other techniques. I imagine that Kyokushinkai mindset itself was at one time similar to this.

[Andrew_Patton]

of course though, you'd have to research ichihara on a non-UFC website, they always lied about things in the old days;

i.e; before UFC 1 Ken Shamrock had exactly 3 fights... not a record of 25-3-2

Kimo Leopoldo never studied Tae Kwon Do, he's a streetfighter.

Jason Delucia only had one bareknuckle fight (with Royce to boot), not 23 like stated.

Ron Van Clief didn't have 10 different black belts.IIRC

Art Jimmerson wasn't really a great boxer.(not top of the heap like UFC was supposed to showcase)

and my personal favorite (from sat. night) Royce's MMA record as of this may was not 11-0... more like 13-2-3 and he never beat Yoshida, Yoshida choked him out once, and he drew with him the second time...

Other than that, Traditional fist answers pretty much spot on... but, I've seen sources that state that ichihara is a sixth dan... I don't know if they're talking then or now... but if you get your info from the UFC, especially older ones... watch out, they're trying to swing things their way

[ps1]

Good post Andrew_Patton.

[Traditional-Fist]

of course though, you'd have to research ichihara on a non-UFC website, they always lied about things in the old days;

i.e; before UFC 1 Ken Shamrock had exactly 3 fights... not a record of 25-3-2

Kimo Leopoldo never studied Tae Kwon Do, he's a streetfighter.

Jason Delucia only had one bareknuckle fight (with Royce to boot), not 23 like stated.

Ron Van Clief didn't have 10 different black belts.IIRC

Art Jimmerson wasn't really a great boxer.(not top of the heap like UFC was supposed to showcase)

and my personal favorite (from sat. night) Royce's MMA record as of this may was not 11-0... more like 13-2-3 and he never beat Yoshida, Yoshida choked him out once, and he drew with him the second time...

.....but if you get your info from the UFC, especially older ones... watch out, they're trying to swing things their way

That was an eye opener, thanks. I always new that these sort of organisations hyped things up, but what I did not know was just how much.