help me choose a grappling martial art.

[Kyle-san]

Jiu-Jitsu.

[Kensai]

Go watch an Aikido lesson and you'll see.

 

I am talking about stand up, we only do kneeling grappling, none of this ground lark.

 

Thats what the Judo is for.

[Venezolano]

i always watch Aikido's lessons, but Aikido fpr Grappling?

 

no way..

[Kensai]

What sort of grappling are you talking about?

 

Because Aikido is a grappling style, if it can be stylised at all. It definately is not a striking style.

[SBN Doug]

Considering he already has some Hapkido, I'm assuming he wants ground fighting type of grappling.

[Kensai]

Oh right fair enough, Judo then.

 

As I said before.

[Venezolano]

I have heard that Aikido is a defensive art, it doesn't have many attacks, but never heard about be a "grappling" style

[Kirves]

Aikido has standing and kneeing grappling, but not really wrestling or that much clinch work either. Although there are lots of different Aikido styles with differing focuses, I've yet to find a style that trained techniques in the guard, bottom or side positions on the ground. They more or less focus on the limb joint manipulation and locking from standing or kneeing positions.

 

But as I said, there are several styles and certainly I'm not familiar with all of them.

[Kensai]

I have always concidered "grappling" to be against someone that is holding you, rather than striking you. For example if someone grabs you in a "bear hug" style hold, I would consider that grappling. Or perhaps something more like a grasp on both shoulders and choking, which Aikido has many defences against.

 

Its true that Aikido does not have ne waza (ground work) or clinch work, mainly because they are not really Aikido attacks. Although I have seen suwari waza (kneeling techniques) used in ground fighting positions and from what you guys call "the guard". I am still pretty new to Judo/grappling terminology as I have not really started as yet.

 

I guess if you think of grappling in a BJJ or Wrestling sence then it is not very similar at all, but like I said before I think of it as escaping from grasping like attacks. (although we do do strikes to).

[Kirves]

I have always concidered "grappling" to be against someone that is holding you, rather than striking you. For example if someone grabs you in a "bear hug" style hold, I would consider that grappling. Or perhaps something more like a grasp on both shoulders and choking, which Aikido has many defences against.

 

True, but there's more to grappling than what Aikido typically teaches, so if one wants to learn a complete grappling curriculum, he may end up wanting more if he takes up Aikido alone.

they are not really Aikido attacks

 

Aikido attacks - now there's one more oxymoron! (just foolin' around)

Although I have seen suwari waza (kneeling techniques) used in ground fighting positions and from what you guys call "the guard".

 

Several Aikido locks and moves can be performed on the ground, yes, but it is hardly ever practiced in Aikido dojos and don't tell me that if you've seen someone dabble with it a couple of times, he's going to pull it off in a fight.

I guess if you think of grappling in a BJJ or Wrestling sence then it is not very similar at all, but like I said before I think of it as escaping from grasping like attacks..

 

If you think of grappling as a whole, Aikido focuses only some parts of it (mostly limb joint manipulation from standing or kneeing position). Wrestling focuses on another part of it (clinch work and ground work, with less wrist manipulation). BJJ has a more wide grip as it has lots of the stuff Aikido has, but also stuff wrestling has, and some other stuff too.

 

PS. I'm not saying Aikido is bad, or BJJ is good - I don't study either myself. Just saying that if someone "wants to learn grappling" he might want to check out an art with both standup and onground work trained regularly.