patusai Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Just thinking...maybe Kung Fu is sped up karate?? "Don't tell me the sky's the limit because I have seen footprints on the moon!" -- Paul Brandt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohan Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 After trying to keep up in Hung Gar last night, I'm inclined to agree with that.Respectfully,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarateK Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I have this discussion with a friend ALL the time. Not specifically about karate/kung fu but what style derives from what. Karate Ni Sentinashi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Yeah I have listened to some of those discussions. The way I mainly look at it is Kung Fu = chinese disciplines and Karate = japanese/okinawan influence. I am sure there is a in between realm where they have been mixed (shaolin kempo) but in reality its essentially all the same roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarateK Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Does anyone find hostility between styles? I have friends who study shotokan and some who do kung fu. They will argue the t**s that their style is the most efficient. most deadly blah blah. It seems silly to me when they are basically all derived from the same purposes? Karate Ni Sentinashi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohan Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Does anyone find hostility between styles? I have friends who study shotokan and some who do kung fu. They will argue the t**s that their style is the most efficient. most deadly blah blah. It seems silly to me when they are basically all derived from the same purposes?Sure, but parents and children don't always see eye to eye, so why shouldn't there be a little friction between karate and gung fu practitioners? Peace and harmony is a great concept, but we're still only human. Respectfully,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patusai Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 There are many paths to the way. Each only one path. People like believing that theirs is the strongest, biggest, most deadly most this and most that. It is an issue of pride. I have a dollar and you have four quarters. Same thing "Don't tell me the sky's the limit because I have seen footprints on the moon!" -- Paul Brandt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohan Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 There are many paths to the way. Each only one path. People like believing that theirs is the strongest, biggest, most deadly most this and most that. It is an issue of pride. I have a dollar and you have four quarters. Same thing I really like the way you express your thoughts, patusai.With respect,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizu Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I thought it was commonly accepted that karate followed on from kung fu. The very word "karate" which is now taken to mean "empty hand" (kara te), originally came from the Okinawan pronounciation of the word "kara" meaning "chinese", i.e. "chinese hand".As Patusai said, everyone wants to think their style is the best - plain cognitive dissonance - but in reality, I would imagine they are all fairly much the same with regards effectiveness.I'm often asked by my none MA practicing friends who I think would win in a fight between a kung fu master and a karate master. I answer simply that they would not have cause to engage each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymac Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 "I'm often asked by my none MA practicing friends who I think would win in a fight between a kung fu master and a karate master. I answer simply that they would not have cause to engage each other."mizu, You are very wise. A great martial artist is one who is humble and respectful of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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