MizuRyu Posted April 25, 2006 Posted April 25, 2006 It's NEVER impossible to gain size. It just takes a lot of dedication and hard work. I'd recommend, as always, to stick to the large compounds. Squats, deadlifts, bench press, overhead press, chin ups, lat pulls... etc. Lots of quality protein and no sugar. "They look up, without realizing they're standing in the palm of your hand""I burn alive to keep you warm"
UseoForce Posted April 25, 2006 Posted April 25, 2006 I agree with elbows. Instead of working out 1 specific muscle group per day, I have 2 push days, 2 pull days, and a leg day. Each push and pull day has different emphasis than the respective push or pull day before it. If it works, use it!If not, throw it out!
Toby Posted April 30, 2006 Author Posted April 30, 2006 Yikes. You sure o eat differently from us Yanks. Though you and I share a love for tea. Green would be my choice.It's your diet that is your main issue. You need a heftier breakfast and lunch. Eat a midmorning snack. Less food in the evening. More protein at every meal (buy yourself a protein powder supplement and take 2-3 servings per day). No raw egg yolk--you can salmonella from it. Get a trainer or a good book to learn a proper weight training plan that focuses on basic multiple joint movements. If you can't afford that, do this (each set has increasing weight):Mon/Thur: Bench Press: 4 sets of 10 (warmup), 8, 6, 8 repsDumbbell Shoulder Press: 3 sets of 8 reps Dumbbell Row: 3 sets of 8 repsBarbell or Dumbbell Biceps Curl: 3 sets of 8-10 reps Tues/FriSquats: 4 sets of 12 (warmup), 10, 8, 10 repsLunges with Dumbbells: 3 sets of 10 reps per legCalf Raises with Dumbbell: 3 sets of 15-20 reps per legAnd save the pushups for a warmup, nobody gains bulk from pushups.Hope this helps.Cheers::SohanThanks Sohan, this plan seems easy and effective... One question though. What should my starting weight be? (I guess i'll start at 25% of my max and build up by 25% for each set.)And as well as doing your workout plan, should I still include the bike riding, rowing? Or do you think that's too much?Thanks again,Toby. "The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering." - Bruce Lee
Smitty Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 I'm no expert, but I was in exactly the same shape. I was 5'7" and 145 pounds. Have you tried pyramid lifting? My body responded positively to that. Not saying it'd work for you, but it's a thought.
Aodhan Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Yikes. You sure o eat differently from us Yanks. Though you and I share a love for tea. Green would be my choice.It's your diet that is your main issue. You need a heftier breakfast and lunch. Eat a midmorning snack. Less food in the evening. More protein at every meal (buy yourself a protein powder supplement and take 2-3 servings per day). No raw egg yolk--you can salmonella from it. Get a trainer or a good book to learn a proper weight training plan that focuses on basic multiple joint movements. If you can't afford that, do this (each set has increasing weight):Mon/Thur: Bench Press: 4 sets of 10 (warmup), 8, 6, 8 repsDumbbell Shoulder Press: 3 sets of 8 reps Dumbbell Row: 3 sets of 8 repsBarbell or Dumbbell Biceps Curl: 3 sets of 8-10 reps Tues/FriSquats: 4 sets of 12 (warmup), 10, 8, 10 repsLunges with Dumbbells: 3 sets of 10 reps per legCalf Raises with Dumbbell: 3 sets of 15-20 reps per legAnd save the pushups for a warmup, nobody gains bulk from pushups.Hope this helps.Cheers::SohanThanks Sohan, this plan seems easy and effective... One question though. What should my starting weight be? (I guess i'll start at 25% of my max and build up by 25% for each set.)And as well as doing your workout plan, should I still include the bike riding, rowing? Or do you think that's too much?Thanks again,Toby.No, starting at 25% of your max won't do much good at all. You need to figure out your max (either one rep or 3 rep will do), and start at about 70% and go to about 85% by the third set. Start a little higher if you want to work bulk a little more.25% of max you could do reps for 10 minutes before you got tired Aodhan There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other.-Douglas Everett, American hockey player
Sohan Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 That's right, Aodhan. Toby, typically a warmup on a basic multijoint move is about 40-50% of your top set. For example, if I were doing 300 for 5 as a top set, my warmup would likely be 135 or so. Then increase to about 70-75% for the next set, then 80-85 for the next. Pyramids are great too (say 10 reps, 8, 6, 4, 8, 10--I usually skip the last set of 10). The heavier your top sets, the more warmup you need. A guy doing a 400 x 3 bench needs more warmup than a guy doing 175 x 4. No need for extended warmup for biceps curls or tri extensions--they usually follow multijoint movements anyway. And watch your rest periods--longer rest for building strength, shorter rest for hypertrophy (muscle building). Make sure you do workouts with longer rest periods and heavier weight. As you get stronger your training volume will increase which will help you get bigger. Many lifters make the mistake of never utilizing longer rest and only doing short rest periods--they never reach their potential.Also, if you're trying to build bulk and lean mass, keep your cardio to a minimum. Cardio training will keep you from making your gains. It's a necessary to help keep you lean and your heart healthy, but it's a trade off. You'll rarely see a bodybuilder do much cardio in a mass building phase.Respectfully,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu
Aodhan Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 That's right, Aodhan. Yes, I know. I spent 4 years plus an internship getting a degree in exercise kinesiology. What a pain in the tookus, but it does come in handy now that I teach. Aodhan There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other.-Douglas Everett, American hockey player
Sohan Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 That's right, Aodhan. Yes, I know. I spent 4 years plus an internship getting a degree in exercise kinesiology. What a pain in the tookus, but it does come in handy now that I teach. AodhanHumble, too. Where did you get your degree? I received my Masters in Exercise Science from Georgia State University. I am also certified by the NSCA as a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist (since 1995) and ACSM (Health Fitness Instructor--since 1996).It comes in handy for me because it is the way I put food on my table.Respectfully,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu
Aodhan Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 That's right, Aodhan. Yes, I know. I spent 4 years plus an internship getting a degree in exercise kinesiology. What a pain in the tookus, but it does come in handy now that I teach. AodhanHumble, too. Where did you get your degree? I received my Masters in Exercise Science from Georgia State University. I am also certified by the NSCA as a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist (since 1995) and ACSM (Health Fitness Instructor--since 1996).It comes in handy for me because it is the way I put food on my table.Respectfully,SohanNever got to the Master's level. Got my bachelors from the Univ. of Northern Colorado, but I got sidetracked and ended up in computer programming. I do some fitness prescription and diet/nutritional analysis part time, but mostly it's programming and teaching at the studio.Aodhan There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other.-Douglas Everett, American hockey player
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