Interesting Video...

[MizuRyu]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7674028043115699716&pl=true

[Jersey Devil]

Thats an obvious statement made in the video, but he needs to realize that what he failed to show the actual fighting techniques NOT working.

I could make a same video addressing his techniques, and a 2 on 1 encounter in which you're jumped doesnt leave much room for hope for the person getting attacked. Thats less in the realm of physical techniques and more in the realm of awareness.

While I kinda agree with their statements, they're blatently obvious and there are far too many "Reality Self Defense" instructors out there who are in fact doing a worse job that your average martial arts mcdojo.

[jaymac]

I don't necessarily agree. I would much rather have my several years of MA training to back me up in a situation than have no fighting experience at all. That street fight that was shown was staged. The victim didn't even try to use any MA. So how does this prove that MA experience would be ineffective in a street fight?

[Dont call me Sir]

Just for the record; The clip is part of the introduction to "The Pavement Arena". It was the first video made by Geoff Thompson, who is one of, if not the, top Reality Based self Defence (RBSD) Instructors in the world.

Also in the clip is Peter Consterdine, who partners Geoff to lead the British Combat Association.

I've had the pleasure of training under both men who are true gentlemen and pioneers in their field of expertise.

DCMS.

Edited April 21, 2006 by Don't call me Sir!

[Dont call me Sir]

Incidentaly, the material (DVD's, Vids, etc) from both Geoff Thompson and Peter Consterdine are worth their weight in gold.

DCMS.

Edited April 21, 2006 by Don't call me Sir!

[Sohan]

The "victim" in the video was in no way representative of a trained martial artist. Not a good way to illustrate their point.

It was, however, fun to see a little long chamber practice between the two karateka.

Respectfully,

Sohan

[lordtariel]

I'm sorry but if two guys came up behind me in a back alley like that, I wouldn't be checking my watch, and I wouldn't be walking with my head down, all sluoched over and with my hands buried in my pockets. I'll give that there are a lot of mcdojo's out there that don't deal teach common sense in fight avoidance, but this sounds much like the classic my style can beat up your style argument. Statements and scare tactics like that scream at me to find a different school.

[Dont call me Sir]

The clip is a very small part of and intro for a RBSD video/DVD. Don't read too much into it, or take it out of context, it's a clip for goodness sake!

Don't judge a book by it's cover. The video/DVD is very good as it happens,.

DCMS.

[Jersey Devil]

Meh, the problem I have with most RBSD instructors is that they cant prove what they're teaching- many of them are in a group of people who fall back on the notion that their techniques are too deadly to be used in training or in a competitive fight.

I've heard of Thompson, but I dont know much about him- if hes not like Tony Blauer, then thats a step in the right direction

[bushido_man96]

Personally, I think that there would have been a gun pulled instead of a beating in today's society.

With that aside, I think it is a poor indicator of martial arts training. How many well trained, non-professional fighters would have a great chance of escaping two attackers like that?

I don't know, but I don't buy it.