DJmma Posted April 7, 2006 Author Posted April 7, 2006 ok good to know. I want to work hard, but dont want to get hurt every class...I will be going to my first class for Muay Thai and BJJ on saturday. cant wait. thanks for the info.
TJS Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 I will second that you dont have to get hurt in MT, yea it can be rough and u can get banged up but If you go to thailand they train very hard with few injuries so they can fight often.
TJS Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 1. technically, bjj is judo. That is where is came from. Sure, judo is a jjj offshoot, but bjj is judo.No it isint judo. It is similar and shares many techniques but has evolved into its own stlye with completly diffrent strategies/goals and training meathods. Not to mention that It has been influenced by stlyes such as wrestling and sambo over the years...more so than judo.
elbows_and_knees Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 I'm not referring to anything that influenced it over the years. I'm talking about it's origin. It's origin is judo, not jjj.
UseoForce Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 elbows is right. If it works, use it!If not, throw it out!
TJS Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 I'm not referring to anything that influenced it over the years. I'm talking about it's origin. It's origin is judo, not jjj.A child is from it's mother..that does not mean it IS it's mother. being FROM somethign and BEING somethign are alightly different.
DJmma Posted April 12, 2006 Author Posted April 12, 2006 yea you have a point...but maybe he meant to say its origin in judo, not that it IS judo. it is obviously not judo since they are two different martial arts. So, jiu-jitsu started in india, more than 2,000 years before christ, i know that. And it spread through china, eventualy settled in japan. JJJ was formed. then, Japanese jiu-jitsu champions Esai Maeda and Inomata arrived in Brazil to help establish a Japanese immigration colony. He was aided by Gastao Gracie. To show his thanks, the master taught the basic secrets of that ancient fighting style to Gastao's son, Carlos Gracie. Carlos taught Maeda's techniques to his brothers: Oswaldo, Gastao, Jorge and Helio. So, is this basicly how BJJ was formed? or am i confusing gracie jiu-jitsu with BJJ. arent they the saem thing though.
elbows_and_knees Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 yea you have a point...but maybe he meant to say its origin in judo, not that it IS judo. it is obviously not judo since they are two different martial arts. So, jiu-jitsu started in india, more than 2,000 years before christ, i know that. And it spread through china, eventualy settled in japan. JJJ was formed. then, Japanese jiu-jitsu champions Esai Maeda and Inomata arrived in Brazil to help establish a Japanese immigration colony. He was aided by Gastao Gracie. To show his thanks, the master taught the basic secrets of that ancient fighting style to Gastao's son, Carlos Gracie. Carlos taught Maeda's techniques to his brothers: Oswaldo, Gastao, Jorge and Helio. So, is this basicly how BJJ was formed? or am i confusing gracie jiu-jitsu with BJJ. arent they the saem thing though.There's really no verifiable history on the origin of jjj that states it began outside of japan. Some say it came from china, some say it originated in japan, but nobody really knows. However, japan's other big grappling art - sumo - does indeed stem from chinese shuai chiao.
elbows_and_knees Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 BJJ is Jujitsu I was responding to this. That is why I said bjj was judo.... using the same context that he was.
Medici Posted June 1, 2006 Posted June 1, 2006 That combination seems to be working well for the professional MMA fighter these days....
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