GOM Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Maybe I'm confused again but the drop in Kanku (since the kata is a night fight kata) was to drop to use the little light of the horizon to find your opponent.What is a night kata?A kata which can be used in low light situations.Errrr.....and what kata would that be? Which move do you think can be used when it is "low light"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathal Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 They were referring to Kanku Dai, as you can see in the quote. .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Fisher Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 That is a first I have ever heard of a kata referred to as a night kata or one to be used in low light. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 That is a first I have ever heard of a kata referred to as a night kata or one to be used in low light.Same here. Patsui - What makes you think you can use the "kata" in low light? Why can't you use the applications from any kata in any light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patusai Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Maybe I'm confused again but the drop in Kanku (since the kata is a night fight kata) was to drop to use the little light of the horizon to find your opponent.What is a night kata?A kata which can be used in low light situations.Yes, that is what I meant. Sorry I did not explain it better "Don't tell me the sky's the limit because I have seen footprints on the moon!" -- Paul Brandt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I think I see where this line of thinking is coming from. In low light circumstances if you get low to the ground you will be better able to see the silluotte of an enemy against the background of the horizon. I never looked at it this way before. Seems kinda viable.Am I on the right track Patusai? "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsey Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 i have always interpreted the 'drop' in kanku as a throw.is there any evidence to support the 'night kata' idea? i have never heard of it before and i'm skeptical.if the drop was intended to help the practitioner see his opponent, then why is the gaze directed towards the floor and why does the following move point in the opposite direction? "Gently return to the simple physical sensation of the breath. Then do it again, and again, and again. Somewhere in this process, you will come face-to-face with the sudden and shocking realization that you are completely crazy. Your mind is a shrieking, gibbering madhouse on wheels." - ven. henepola gunaratana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Really the only evidence required is that it works. If patusai has a bunkai that works...then it is credible. As far as the gaze toward the floor, not everyone does it that way. I have judged may tourneys where the practitioner looks around while on the ground. While I've never practiced it as patusai proposes...I wouldn't be overly critical either. It does seem viable. Besides, I can think of a number of kata where the bunkai requires slight changes or adjustments in the movements. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsey Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 personally i believe all kata movements are active combat techniques that will disable the opponent, i guess that is the root of my skepticism of this bunkai. "Gently return to the simple physical sensation of the breath. Then do it again, and again, and again. Somewhere in this process, you will come face-to-face with the sudden and shocking realization that you are completely crazy. Your mind is a shrieking, gibbering madhouse on wheels." - ven. henepola gunaratana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I agree with alsey, I too find the whole "night kata" to be somewhat interesting, to say the least. Why would you want to get on the ground in the first place? Surely that is an easy way for your attacker to take advantage of you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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