hey guys! im new to the forums/karate-requesting assistance!

[Night Rider]

The Purpose:

hey guys! im new to the forums and karate and all...but im here for a couple of things:

#1=>to get feedback for my pondering questions or uncertainties

#2=>to give feedback fro others pondering quesions or uncertainties

The Plan:

well, i just signed up today for the site...so i guess ill help myself then help others, giving each other time also, i am going to give you as much info as i can...thats nessisary, without bragging

The Body:

okay, well guys im 5 10 and very athletic...i weigh 165 pounds, im really low body percent fat but i still have my strength in muscle, as in im chizzled (NOT LIKE BRUCE LEE! BRUCE LEE IS CHIZZLED TO CORE) but have a little "jacked"-effect. i play football, basketball, track, and i workout and "diet"...flexible-ness?

ugh arnold being 0 and bruce lee being 10, id be about a...6.5-7

The Routine:

run every day but sunday, workout full body everyday but sunday, dynamic and static stretches every day but sunday, diet (starve) everyday BUT NIGHTS(dinners only) AND SUNDAYS

The Request:

ive always been into martial arts fighting and all...from dbz, to games, to studying...i dont want to really get into the "arts" i just wanna learn a majority of things:

-Kick-Up

-Arial

-Front-Hand Plant

-Back-Flip

-Flip Off a Wall

^I think its ACROBATICS, i think im really interested in it...ive been doing some searching on the site and yes i do realize most of these topics are probaly covered, but i want feedback specially designed for my body strucutre if you know what i mean. ive mastered the "Kick-Up" in 30 minutes, practice makes perfect...

The Request:

I want you to give me as much feedback and input as you possibly can, if anything/anyone can help me i know its you, and i will repay you somehow someway.

-Is there a specific order i should "self-teach" myself these things?

-Which is the hardest/easiest?

-Which is the most deadly/puzzy?

-If theres any previous posts you can think of to add info for me, can you state the link or quote the post?

-Any video sites where I can see this performed?

-What do i MENTALLY need?

Closing:

I just wanted to say, i am very determined to do this and btw i didnt know which section to put this under lol i guess it could be undre lots...but anyway, please and thanks in advance!

[UseoForce]

Teaching yourself anything is not advisable. Even if you don't hurt yourself (and you will) your technique will probably be bad without an instructor to correct you.

For starters, I think your workout could use some tweaking. Go to the Health and Fitness forum, there are some knowlegable guys there that can help you out.

You are very lucky. You live in New York. I bet there are 100 different martial arts styles within 20 minutes of your home.

You sound like you are very into acrobatics. Check into Capoeira. It's a Brazilian martial art that looks a little like break dancing, but it does have some great fighting techniques as well.

Good luck !

[Spirit At Choice]

I think acrobatics may be a good avenue for you. You might also check into circus training. They often have summer camps that will teach you a lot in a minimal amount of time; and it's all the coolest stuff.

But I must agree with Use of Force: please learn under an instructor. There is *so* much more to it than first appears.

Best wishes!!! I hope you have lots of fun!!!

[JusticeZero]

*shrugs* I do enough Capoeira that I teach classes, and I have never done ANY of those things. Well, maybe except for the front hand thing, though i'm not quite sure what that is. Could you be a bit less hasty about the flipping=capoeira association? Because the only people I know who bother with that sort of thing are TKDers who want to do forms competition.

[Night Rider]

Capoeira ? imma search a lil about that certain topic/style...idk if i wanna get into the circus stuff, because thats like mega super ultra giga balance (lol), but you havent done any of that? here, let me specify:

-Arial => a sideways flip, instead of vertical its horizontal

-Kick-Up => laying on ground on back...pump legs and use arms to pop self up quickly gracefully and efficiently (previously posted)

-Front-Hand Plant => a frontflip but the hands touch ground and push self up (while front-flipping)

-Back-Flip => (is this nessisary? lol...lmao did i even spell it right?) jumping backwards and landing on feet

-flip off wall => just basically a backflip

i understand ill eventaully get hurt, and i understand having a teacher is VERY nessisary...but im trying to make up for that, because this is a hobby to me not a career. (dont you get it!???! im sick of playing games! =D)

im thinking of making it up by using friends, internet forums, internet videos, internet samples, ect. and im not just gonna look at it, im gonna study it...= /

and btw, yeah there ARE a lot of places in New York that teach things like that, but like i said ^^

=D

oh yeah, i think im healthy and in shape and fit and stuff...i just want as many resources and stuff like that uk what i mean?

[Azmyth]

I don't think your in the right place honestly, although some martial arts have a tiny bit of this type stuff incorporated for "show", you sound more like you want to get into gymnastics than martial arts.

[Youkai.no.Tamashii]

I don't think your in the right place honestly, although some martial arts have a tiny bit of this type stuff incorporated for "show", you sound more like you want to get into gymnastics than martial arts.

Exactly. If you don't want to get into the "Arts" of martial arts, then you shouldn't start it. Karate isn't about fighting or showy techniques, it's about self defence, inner strength, and heart.

[jaymac]

I agree with others. I don't think martial arts is the place for you. You are not interested or serious about the training it takes in Martial Arts. Maybe gymnastics is a good place for you. They are extremely acrobatic, flexible, and strong.

[JusticeZero]

-Arial => a sideways flip, instead of vertical its horizontal

Never done it.

-Kick-Up => laying on ground on back...pump legs and use arms to pop self up quickly gracefully and efficiently (previously posted)

I'm familiar with it. I don't do it, and didn't learn it in capoeira. I use role instead, because it works better and is much better defended, though not as flashy.

-Front-Hand Plant => a frontflip but the hands touch ground and push self up (while front-flipping)

I do variations on this, but not the two hands together/two feet together thing you're likely imagining. Though I could if I wanted, it violates several principles of corpo fechado - basically, it's too vulnerable so we don't do it.

-Back-Flip => (is this nessisary? lol...lmao did i even spell it right?) jumping backwards and landing on feet

-flip off wall => just basically a backflip

I've never done one and see no reason to. It doesn't seem to gain any tactical positioning that I see, and it's a ballistic, jumping movement, which we avoid like the plague.

[Azmyth]

I think lots of people get a false impression that acrobats and martial arts go hand in hand. When, its more of hollywoods way of making martial arts more entertaining. I will admit a martial artist who can do flips and stuff looks really awesome and appealing, but its not practical.. so schools don't teach it. So, if u want to learn martial arts.. your in the right place, if you want to learn how to do flips.. either check out gymnastics or cheerleading.