younwhadoug Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 i am a red belt and the lowest ranking student in our wed night advanced class. i have been going to that class for about 6 months and train very hard and perform really well. but i still feel like the higher ranks do not take me seriously. i look up to all of them and train with them on other days too. they know my goals and pretty much everything about me because of the closeness of training we have. a few think i am great but for the most part the treat me like i'm ten and i don't know i can just tell they dont think i'm ganna go the distance. they couldnt be more wrong but my question is...have you ever delt with this and how did you go about it?should i even let it bother me? be polite, be patient, be alert, be brave, do your best, respect yourself and others. "you may knock me down 100 times but i am resilliant and will NEVER GIVE UP"
stoneheart Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Train long enough and the problem will take care of itself. Really, why even worry about it? You ARE the most junior person in the class. Just work hard and pay your dues. You will earn respect as you improve in skill and demonstrate your dedication to the art, and your ranking will follow.
patusai Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 Train long enough and the problem will take care of itself. Really, why even worry about it? You ARE the most junior person in the class. Just work hard and pay your dues. You will earn respect as you improve in skill and demonstrate your dedication to the art, and your ranking will follow.That's nice! Well put. "Don't tell me the sky's the limit because I have seen footprints on the moon!" -- Paul Brandt
jaymac Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 I agree, all you have to do is prove them wrong by continually working and training hard. Don't worry about what others think, it will only inhibit your own progress. A great martial artist is one who is humble and respectful of others.
Fairfax_Uechi Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 i am a red belt and the lowest ranking student in our wed night advanced class. i have been going to that class for about 6 months and train very hard and perform really well. but i still feel like the higher ranks do not take me seriously. i look up to all of them and train with them on other days too. they know my goals and pretty much everything about me because of the closeness of training we have. a few think i am great but for the most part the treat me like i'm ten and i don't know i can just tell they dont think i'm ganna go the distance. they couldnt be more wrong but my question is...have you ever delt with this and how did you go about it?should i even let it bother me?How old are you and how do you conduct yourself? If you're serious about your training then you should be respected. Of course, your age and those of your classmates will impact this. In our dojo we don't have this kind of problem, but we also work hard to ensure that everyone is treated with respect, and is in the dojo to work hard.
younwhadoug Posted March 18, 2006 Author Posted March 18, 2006 i am 26 and family and goal orriented. i entered tkd for my son and soon after decided to make a career out of it. at green belt my instructor aproached me about an instructors course and long hard internship. he trained me personally and i purchased private sessions with him and other high ranking instructors after talking to references. we go by 6 training princeples that are listed below. my wife and i try to live by them. i present myself humbly ready and willing to learn. i adress everyone in my assiociation as ma'am or sir. i do not talk back i ask many questions. i assure you i am nothing less than professional and respectful as is my wife and two sons that train with me. advanced class averages about 25 students from all around every wed. all bb and above. i consider myself lucky to be there and would never behave in a way that would make my intructor anything but proud of me. , he also teaches advanced class here, he is the leader of sw mo divission. when he sees someone disrespecting me he partners them up with me. my wife is the same rank as i and is just recently able to attend. she notices it too. i think it has a lot to do with the way i train. most of the bbs in there are my age and well it doesnt take much to be bigger than me. not that it has to do with it. i have a shaved head goatee and tatoos and most of these guys are bible study type. clean cut and morally clean in every way. i respect them for that. some grew up doing this. i think they may resent me because of where i am in a reletively short amount of time. i could be wrong. i wont approach my instructor on the subject i would just rather prove to them. i was just wondering if anyone had been through this. also on fight nights some of them tend to fight me harder than they fight eachother. i dont mind i put in what they do but i thought it was supposed to be the other way around. agian, this is not everyone in the class. nor do i demand respect. anywho just wondering be polite, be patient, be alert, be brave, do your best, respect yourself and others. "you may knock me down 100 times but i am resilliant and will NEVER GIVE UP"
jaymac Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 I wonder if they are doing this to you because they are judging the book by its cover. You said that you had shaved head and tatoos and they are bible study type. It isn't fair if that is how they feel towards you, but maybe they think you believe you are a tough guy or something. Continue to prove them wrong. You deserve to be there because you are a dedicated MA. A great martial artist is one who is humble and respectful of others.
Red J Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 I think you are in a great spot. You are the lowest rank in an advanced class. For growth opportunity, you can't beat that. You most likely are learning at a faster rate than if you didn't have all those advanced students. As far as the respect goes, keep showing up and showing your true character. You will earn their respect. I had to lose my mind to come to my senses.
younwhadoug Posted March 18, 2006 Author Posted March 18, 2006 thankyou! be polite, be patient, be alert, be brave, do your best, respect yourself and others. "you may knock me down 100 times but i am resilliant and will NEVER GIVE UP"
Fairfax_Uechi Posted March 19, 2006 Posted March 19, 2006 younwhadougIt sounds like you have it together. The only suggestion is what you probably know and that is to just be yourself. Train hard, and don't worry about them. BTW, how about learning to use mixed case!!! It really helps making what you write easier to read.
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