Sensei Mark Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Your evaluation is correct in that lifting the knee from a side position is theirfor a larger movement, hence easier to see and theirfor easier to defend.But you miss the point of any technique applyed in kumite to be successfull must also incorporate timing. If the timing is correct then it becomes very difficult to block even if seen, as the split second reaction time can be lost.The general opposite theory, where the knee lift is from the front can be less easier to see but the trade off is less power because of less hip rotation availability.As you know kumite or sparring can be unpredictable and as such their are many moments when fighting that the knee lift is neither side nor front but a mixture of the two depending on distance, balance etcNothing is locked in as it is more of a basic guide to a variety of technical suttlties. Osu: Sensei Markhttps://www.marktysondojo.com
Brandon Fisher Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Do you have a video of you doing the kick? Also Kanazawa Sensei has a DVD video out on Ashi Waza that is very good and might help you. awma.com has it available. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
DennisTheMenace Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Osu!Training training training! Thats the only thing that helps.When you make the kick. You know all the importent things when you do it. (the hip twist and so on)But a lot of the speed comes from the knee. make sure you make it fast. Lift the knee to your side, do the kick, and make sure to put the foot fast to the ground, or else you can get a VERY bad happit, which slows the following move a lot. Karate is like boiling water; if you do not keep the flame high, it turns tepid. Funakoshi told his student, "for each day of practice you miss, the positive effects of three days of previous training are lost."
Sensei Mark Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Osu Sempai Brandon. I do not personally have a clip online at the moment (although im working on it) but if you visit:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4845922824597238061&q=Karateand checkout this bit of Kyokushin video footage (Brazil i think) it will give you an idea of the style of roundkick which we ourselves in kyokushin generally use.It has a good assortment of good basic knockdown techniques and combinations which are very effective and are very good for free sparring and Tournaments. Osu: Sensei Markhttps://www.marktysondojo.com
Brandon Fisher Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Sensei Mark,I didn't mean if you had a video I meant for the person having the problem so I could help make suggestions. Also please if you address me either just call me Brandon or please use the title of Sensei with my name. I am not edgy about title many times I just prefer Brandon. I am a 5th Dan though so its been awhile since I had the Sempai title.I am familar with the Kyokushin mawashi geri is very interesting how its executed and very powerful probably one of the most powerful I have ever seen. When I practice kumite I do my mawashi geri very similar to the Kyokushin way because of the speed and power it has. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
hurricane Posted March 22, 2006 Author Posted March 22, 2006 Do you have a video of you doing the kick? Also Kanazawa Sensei has a DVD video out on Ashi Waza that is very good and might help you. awma.com has it available.This is a good idea. I don't have a video right now but have a friend with a camera so maybe I can ask her to film me doing my mawashi geri. Thanks for your offer to check it!
Brandon Fisher Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 No problem on the offer. I am here to learn and help. Let me know when you have it done. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
Killer Miller Posted March 23, 2006 Posted March 23, 2006 The kick in the video short is "not" even close to a Shotokan type of roundhouse kick. The foot is not coiled back ready for release. Instead, their foot comes out almost immediately when executing the kick - which requires more hip movement to be effective. This type of kick can be slower due to the pre-extended foot - not recommended for Shotokan. The foot should not come out until the knee is pointing at the target - then BLAM...- Jack - Mizu No KokoroShodan - Nishiyama SenseiTable Tennis: http://www.jmblades.com/Auto Weblog: http://appliedauto.mypunbb.com/Auto Forum: http://appauto.wordpress.com/
Brandon Fisher Posted March 23, 2006 Posted March 23, 2006 The kick in the video short is "not" even close to a Shotokan type of roundhouse kick. The foot is not coiled back ready for release. Instead, their foot comes out almost immediately when executing the kick - which requires more hip movement to be effective. This type of kick can be slower due to the pre-extended foot - not recommended for Shotokan. The foot should not come out until the knee is pointing at the target - then BLAM...- Jack -Jack,Excellent explanation of a Shotokan style Mawashi Geri. Using both the hip and knee can increase power and speed. But I have seen some fast Kyokushin mawashi geri as well as extremely powerful. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
Killer Miller Posted March 23, 2006 Posted March 23, 2006 Thanks Brandon,I agree that their style can be effective. But I think the potential would be much more effective by not bringing the foot out from the start. With the foot coming out early is a sign of excessive body tension that can severely slow down the action and power generation.- Killer - Mizu No KokoroShodan - Nishiyama SenseiTable Tennis: http://www.jmblades.com/Auto Weblog: http://appliedauto.mypunbb.com/Auto Forum: http://appauto.wordpress.com/
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