Bushido58266 Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 from all the TKD fighters ive seen fight and those i have fought i noticed that none of them keep their guard up they just fight with their hands down. why is that? i used to be a boxer and in the one match when i fought a TKD fighter i pracically took his head off. and where i take karate, no offense to anyone but everyone makes fun of them because of that. now im not saying they have no skill because the TKD fighters i fought were really a challenge, its just they never protect themselves "Bushido is realized in the presence of death""TapouT or PassouT"
MartialArthur Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 They were probably WTF or "olympic style" fighters. In my org, Taekwondo America, we emphasize "hands up & elbows in" when fighting. We insist on "guard up" when doing every kicking drill to make sure our students get used to always keeping their hands up.
Bushido58266 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Posted February 22, 2006 They were probably WTF or "olympic style" fighters. In my org, Taekwondo America, we emphasize "hands up & elbows in" when fighting. We insist on "guard up" when doing every kicking drill to make sure our students get used to always keeping their hands up.well thats good then, cause some of these fighters that keep their hands down can get seriously hurt. if they enter into open style fights they should learn to keep their hands up "Bushido is realized in the presence of death""TapouT or PassouT"
SubGrappler Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 TKD is famous for being a flashy kicking style- the most common format for a TKD tournament does not allow punches to the head, hence making it unnecessary to protect against punches there.
karatekid1975 Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 My dojang is WTF. We also have to keep our guard up. For one, there's a lot of "head hunters" in my dojang (me included). Plus the instructors will TELL you to keep your guard up. Well, if you don't, you ARE going to get clobbered.The only time I drop my hands is when I spar the little ones (or younger ones) in my class. Specially the ones who need coaching in sparring. I'll GIVE them a target by dropping one hand, and show them how to "read" that target and take it. Once they get better, I stop doing it. Then I tell them to keep their guard up. If they don't, I'll give them a light tap on the head to show them that they are "open." Most learn. Some don't. Laurie F
hammer Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 TKD is famous for being a flashy kicking style- the most common format for a TKD tournament does not allow punches to the head, hence making it unnecessary to protect against punches there.That's a good reason to differentiate between tournament sparring and the real thing...I hope that the people who spar like this in tournaments know not to really fight this way -- one hit to the face and you're done. In tournaments I go to, we allow for points to the head as long as there is no actual contact (for safety reasons, contact above the shoulders is a DQ), and if anyone dropped their hands they'd lose in a hurry.
SubGrappler Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 TKD is famous for being a flashy kicking style- the most common format for a TKD tournament does not allow punches to the head, hence making it unnecessary to protect against punches there.That's a good reason to differentiate between tournament sparring and the real thing...I hope that the people who spar like this in tournaments know not to really fight this way -- one hit to the face and you're done. In tournaments I go to, we allow for points to the head as long as there is no actual contact (for safety reasons, contact above the shoulders is a DQ), and if anyone dropped their hands they'd lose in a hurry.Why not just have headgear and then allow full face contact?
hammer Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 Why not just have headgear and then allow full face contact?I'm not sure, but I'd guess it would be for insurance reasons...I go to a "no contact" club, so we don't do full contact in any case...and yes, I realize that no to light contact sparring isn't entirely realistic either, but at least we learn to protect the whole body instead of leaving the head exposed.
marie curie Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 Yeh, I did a semester of Olympic Style TKD and all those people dropped their hands. They said that the idea is that they will kick me before I reach there head with my hands. Then I blocked a kick and they got hit. You suck-train harder.......................Don't block with your faceA good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving. -Lao Tzu
powerof0ne Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Yes, Olympic style TKD does this and in their tournaments like someone pointed out realistically you don't get points for punching. I found this out the hard way in '96 when I entered a WTF TKD tourny...I literally reversed punched the individual at least 40 times with getting no points in the chest. Why my sensei had me, solely a karateka at the time enter a tkd tourny beats me...however, I did win first place in the forms division doing Chinto and I tied, so I did Bassai Dai and won first place. Which still surprises me considering I did an okinawan/japanese form. I've never tied in kata competition in a karate tournament though, I don't know how often this happens in TKD tournaments. flowing like the chi energy inside your body b =rZa=
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