freebird534 Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 i dont think security guards should have batons also. i would pick the extendable batons though, i have two of those and i love them believe you can do anything and you are limitless
K Williams Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 http://cablespeed.com/~aa3jt/Nice old fashioned Cocobolo nightsticks.
bushido_man96 Posted May 25, 2006 Posted May 25, 2006 I like the extendable batons, because they are easier to carry, and are more resiliant.Just a note, I see several posts saying security guards should not carry batons/extendables, but in the same post, that person admits to owning some. Why shouldn't they carry one? https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
elbows_and_knees Posted May 31, 2006 Posted May 31, 2006 I like the extendable batons, because they are easier to carry, and are more resiliant.Just a note, I see several posts saying security guards should not carry batons/extendables, but in the same post, that person admits to owning some. Why shouldn't they carry one?security guards are less likely to encounter weapon vs weapon situations, unless you are in a bar, where you may have patrons with bottles. baton vs empty hand looks bad on you and the agency legally. In addition, many things require legal certification to use in security - cuffs, oc spray, tasers, gun... once again, to have these and not be certified can pose legal issues. I'd be willing to bet there are baton certs too.In a multiple attacker situation where multiple attackers are present, what happens if one of them snatches the baton from your pocket / holster? you just gave them a weapon.lastly, you have those loose cannons that would use it just because they have it. that said, I carry one, but have only pulled it out a few times - the guy claimed he had a gun in one instance, and I got to him before he was able to draw. In the other instances, it was crowd control. when two big bouncers pull out batons, even a crowd of 10 will think twice before doing anything.
elbows_and_knees Posted May 31, 2006 Posted May 31, 2006 I think the wooden batton would be more reliable and quicker to swing into action, it would just be more of a hastle to carry around. And a lump of wood will do plenty of damage, the extra damage from a metal baton would just be overkill, although I've never been hit by either.the extendable is actually quicker and just as reliable. they are HARD to collapse once extended. you have to jam it into the concrete to retract it. hitting someone will not make it collapse. Also, a good baton like the ASP is very like - lighter than it's wooden counterpart - so it's faster to swing.
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