Dark Shogun Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 I'm thinking more from the point of view of Security Guards/Law Enforcement.So what do you think?
Kara Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Security Should Not Have Batons In My Opinion. For A Simple Reason That Most Officers Are Not Issued Weapons For Offence But More For Defence. Security Is More Or Less Just Monitoring.Law Enforcement Should Be Issued Metal Batons I Think. There Is Not Much Someone Could Do To Defend From one. It Would Be ideal. A Wooden One May be A Standard Weapon Though I Can Not Think Of Much For A Comparison For The Two At The Moment. KBear"lick your wounds, anxious for the next ones"
Dark Shogun Posted May 8, 2006 Author Posted May 8, 2006 I think the wooden batton would be more reliable and quicker to swing into action, it would just be more of a hastle to carry around. And a lump of wood will do plenty of damage, the extra damage from a metal baton would just be overkill, although I've never been hit by either.
Sohan Posted May 8, 2006 Posted May 8, 2006 I own a 21 inch police baton. It folds up and extends quickly and easily and makes a handy protector for a variety of situations. Make sure to really learn how to handle it, because if it gets taken away or dropped it could be used against you, especially if you're in a group of people.Here's one that's similar:http://coolgadget.net/21exbat.htmlWith respect,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu
elbows_and_knees Posted May 12, 2006 Posted May 12, 2006 Security Should Not Have Batons In My Opinion. For A Simple Reason That Most Officers Are Not Issued Weapons For Offence But More For Defence. Security Is More Or Less Just Monitoring.Law Enforcement Should Be Issued Metal Batons I Think. There Is Not Much Someone Could Do To Defend From one. It Would Be ideal. A Wooden One May be A Standard Weapon Though I Can Not Think Of Much For A Comparison For The Two At The Moment.that depends on where you are doing security. I do security in a club - we are the enforcement. When fights break out, there are no cops right away - we have to handle the situation appropriately. anyhoo, for concealment reasons and impact, I would pick the extendable. As for how officers use them, I see them use them offensively all the time. Guy resists, won't go down, cop hits him in the legs or back. Then the guy goes down quick. He gets cuffed and put in the squad car.
elbows_and_knees Posted May 13, 2006 Posted May 13, 2006 I own a 21 inch police baton. It folds up and extends quickly and easily and makes a handy protector for a variety of situations. Make sure to really learn how to handle it, because if it gets taken away or dropped it could be used against you, especially if you're in a group of people.Here's one that's similar:http://coolgadget.net/21exbat.htmlWith respect,SohanThat looks exactly like the one that I own.
UseoForce Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 Just like to note that I know a lot of cops (grew up in a LE family) and any that I've ever asked say they've never used their batons (as a weapon) If it works, use it!If not, throw it out!
Cybren Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 Yes and many cops never use their firearms as a weapon.
elbows_and_knees Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Just like to note that I know a lot of cops (grew up in a LE family) and any that I've ever asked say they've never used their batons (as a weapon)that's true. I work in a different world though - beale street. think of bourbon street, but on a smaller scale. On any given saturday during the spring and summer, there may be 700 to 1,000 people walking on the street, and hundreds of others in the clubs.Also, Like I've said in other threads, intimidation is a beautiful thing. We use them for crowd control. When you see four, big muscular dudes and all of them have a steel baton, even groups of ten will think twice and settle down (it's happened before)
UseoForce Posted May 15, 2006 Posted May 15, 2006 Just like to note that I know a lot of cops (grew up in a LE family) and any that I've ever asked say they've never used their batons (as a weapon)that's true. I work in a different world though - beale street. think of bourbon street, but on a smaller scale. On any given saturday during the spring and summer, there may be 700 to 1,000 people walking on the street, and hundreds of others in the clubs.Also, Like I've said in other threads, intimidation is a beautiful thing. We use them for crowd control. When you see four, big muscular dudes and all of them have a steel baton, even groups of ten will think twice and settle down (it's happened before)I see what you're saying. If it works, use it!If not, throw it out!
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