Meditation?

[SatyagrahaKF]

Oh, and don't feel bad about meditating and being a Christian. Although I consider my philosophy on life to be a mix between Daoist, Buddhist, and Hindi any religion can use meditation.

[nanfeishen]

Meditation, is the quietning of the mind, the ability to focus your mind on one particular thought or concept to the exclusion of all other thoughts, that one thought could be of god, krishna , buddha, mohammed, jesus, the tooth fairy, father christmas, your left foot, etc etc, it doesnt matter, and is not important. It is the focus used and the effort required to achieve that matters. The focus of the mind on a single thing.

There always seem to be arguments or disagreements over the Qi, Chi Ki issue, and that is understandable, BUT, the big but, (not butt) , is that Qi does exist.

It is Qi in the idea of martial arts and acupunture/acupressure and traditional chinese medicine, it is the soul to people who follow the concept of religion, and it is the body's intrinsic bio-electric energy to western science, to dismiss it as a phenomena is to miss it altogether.

It isnt something that suddenly just pops up in training, it has to be worked at, nurtured and saught after, it requires lots of training, lots of focus and great understanding of the body, movement, breathing and relaxation.

[Bushido58266]

i think it depends on the meditation u do. breathing meditations are good and all but they arent the best for fighting. i find mantra meditations are good for fight preparation and visual meditations are good to.

and what do meditations do? they help u focus better and control ur thoughts. one of the most important things in a fight is to never think and meditation helps this. and for those who say meditations dont help well ur wrong cause i thought that to until i acctually tried it and after doing it 15 mins a day every day for 3 months i found out how much it acctually helps

[Fairfax_Uechi]

[quote name="Menjo

When you say some people have no conept or little concept of prayer or meditation' date=' now give me slack because I have no idea on the chirstian religion so maybe I'm defying a sound rule, but meditation for the average person doesnt mean clearing the mind or even slowing thoughts.

Meditation for those who are untrained, is a way just to relax. Saying that there is a correct way could be very condrary to your own statements(if I understood your point correctly). So what I mean is that even though someone thinks they are on a certain path, they are on a path none the less... their desired destination is deluded( I guess this could apply to all sorts of thing), however they still achive(hopefully), some sort of accomplishment, in thier own sort of way.[/quote]

I think you and I are saying similar things. But my point about prayer or meditation was that most people just don't do it or very much. Sure there's the "God Please help me ......" quick prayers that people say, but I'm talking more along the lines of a Zen state or meditation if you will. The totally clearing your mind and "listening", not forcing thoughts, but letting the thoughts come to you. Hence the slowing down the thoughts comment. In other words, when I meditate I don't want to think about the wife, kids, bills, work, the pain in my back. I want to clear them out.

So yes, I agree with you there is no right and wrong way, but there are more introspective ways than others, if that makes any sense

[Menjo]

Ok, I misinterpreded your post, sorry for that. Your point is very agreeable, I focused on the feeling I got from the first part, which led into other things.