MartialArthur Posted February 18, 2006 Posted February 18, 2006 I wear my schools logo all the time. It's great marketing for my school. I get asked about it, get to have a conversation and sometimes even set up a trial class.
MartialArthur Posted February 18, 2006 Posted February 18, 2006 Aren't we kinda pointing the finger at the wrong person. Myagi say, " no such thing as bad student, only bad teacher. teacher say, student do". I wanna call this guys school and yell at the teacher. I wonder how this guy relayed the story in his dojo the next day.Sorry, but Mr Myagi was way off on this one. I have had several students who do not always follow the rules I set out. They do stupid things. I can't imagine an experienced instructor that has not had a problem student or two. Maybe Mr Myagi isn't a real MA instructor, he just plays one in the movies...I would be willing to bet that this guy's instructor does not condone his actions and would be livid if he heard about it.
Fairfax_Uechi Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Aren't we kinda pointing the finger at the wrong person. Myagi say, " no such thing as bad student, only bad teacher. teacher say, student do". I wanna call this guys school and yell at the teacher. I wonder how this guy relayed the story in his dojo the next day.Sorry, but Mr Myagi was way off on this one. I have had several students who do not always follow the rules I set out. They do stupid things. I can't imagine an experienced instructor that has not had a problem student or two. Maybe Mr Myagi isn't a real MA instructor, he just plays one in the movies...I would be willing to bet that this guy's instructor does not condone his actions and would be livid if he heard about it.Have to sort of disagree here. I had a kid in my class who was AWFUL. HORIBLE and TERRIBLE and those were on his good days. I talked to the kid, the mom, and finally the dad. I had to spend a lot of time with them and I really didn't enjoy it. But the payoff was huge. The kid came around. He's now doing well, and has made great improvement. Sure he still has bad days, but they're just minor things compared to his outbreaks.The point is that a student can be "bad", but if you work hard enough as an instructor you can find a way to get through to ALMOST anyone. Yes, I'll give you there are hopeless cases, but I'm willing to bet that they're less common than we'd like to admit. It's so much easier as a teacher to blame the student. It's very painful to stop and think about what you're doing wrong, how to address the student's needs and how to help him or her see the error of their ways. So if you're student is a problem, and you can't find a way to help them become a better student, what are you missing? As for problem students, we all have them. Even a good student can have a bad day and be a problem. The student I used in the example above was a LOT OF WORK. I never once condoned his actions, and I didn't put up with them. I didn't like having to discipline him, go to his parents, and spend the time, but it's part of the job. And while it took some time away from the other students, hopefully some of them will learn from my example and file it away for the future.So, bad students no (with exceptions), bad teachers (too many really). Now with this said, I'd like to challenge you to a little test. The next time you have a student who is being a problem, think about how you handle the situation. Did you do everything you possibly could to help the student? Could you be a little creative and find a different way of dealing with it to help him/her see the errors of their ways? Now this isn't something for you to share unless you want to, but I hope that if you accept it that it will help you (meaning everyone here who teaches) be a better teacher. And FYI, I can honestly say both yes and no to this as I'm still learning to be a better teacher.
MartialArthur Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Fairfax_Uechi, I don't disagree with you at all. The real hopeless cases are very rare, and the guy who this post is about is probably one of them. It is probably his instructor's only hopeless case.Actually, he might not even be hopeless, just stupid and not straightened out by his instructor yet. I stand by my statement that his instructor would be livid if he found out about the incident. If he's a good instructor, he will then straighten him out. I'm not going to jump quickly to point the finger at the instructor because people do stupid things. I really doubt the instructor was ok with him wearing his uniform around town.
jaymac Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 I agree with Sensei Rick on part of his instructor comment. My instructor does not allow us to wear our belts outside of the dojo. Uniforms may be worn to and from class if you are immediately getting into or out of a vehicle. I think this individuals instructor would be livid, if he really had an instructor. It may have been some guy who trained himself without use of a dojo (internet, books, dvd's), thus not learning the respect, honor, and integrity taught by schools. Had this been my student and he continued to misrepresent myself or my school, he would never had made it to black belt because he would have been expelled from my dojo long before he had the chance. I would go as far as talking with him or his parents for awhile, but if his actions continued-----> gone! A great martial artist is one who is humble and respectful of others.
MartialArthur Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 jaymac, how do you know this loser's instructor LET him wear his uniform? In my experience, idiots do things that they are not supposed to do.It is still my contention that this guy's instructor did not let him wear his uniform and belt. It was just some idiot who did not do what he was supposed to do or taught to do.
Roxor Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Wow, that guy is a disgrace to any martial art. .i agree...what kind of moron does that?? i even say someone do that at school and that just pissed me off...especialy since we go to same karate school... Technique is all that matters! NOT YOUR BELT!!
Roxor Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 sorry to break it to ya Sensei Rick, but he was/is a real karate instructor, a pretty good one at that Technique is all that matters! NOT YOUR BELT!!
Ace2021 Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 A wise man once said, hiding your strengths will hide your weakness..and vice-versa (showing strength, showing weakness), that story was a good example of this wise mans tale. A New Age Dawns
patusai Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 There is always someone stronger and that someone may not even know how to spell Karate. As for school patches in public we were always told "be humble about yoiur training." Most did not wear the jackets in public. Those that did never had problems. "Don't tell me the sky's the limit because I have seen footprints on the moon!" -- Paul Brandt
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