"Full Contact"

[patusai]

You'd probably end up like Ali. Hits to the head are never good. Frequent hits to the head cause damage down the road. Not telling anyone anything that they do not know.

[man thing]

As for training in another dojo, how would asking my sensei suggest not respecting other styles of Martial Arts? The concern may be the dojo, not the Art practiced. We can respect something and still choose to disagree with it, or choose not to endorse it. We might say, "I believe xyz style is dangerous," and we have made our point while maintaining respect. We didn't say, "XYZ sucks. They're morons who can't pull punches."

I see what you mean.

[Jiffy]

The head hits is a good example. 9 years ago i was in a fight and got punched in the face (my block wasn't fast enough). It sent my teeth through my lip, covered me in blood and knocked me out for a few seconds. And that was just one punch. You imagine the damage from doing this every training session.

[powerof0ne]

I don't know where to start here...

Someone mentioned something about people not being able to train full contact because of broken bones? Well, generally in Muay Thai, Vale Tudo, Pankration, knockdown karate(kyokushin), etc..(*full contact*) you don't spar right away. The more advanced you are the less limitations in sparring is how it should be done because an advanced student knows what sparring is about and has TECHNIQUE.

I have rarely in my martial art training history seen someone get KO'd or a broken bone in sparring..yes, I've seen it happen but it's been RARE to say the least. I've yet to have my nose broken*knocks wood* and I don't even wear a boxing helmet or any type of Daido Juku bubble mask helmet..nothing. I do however make students less then a brown belt level wear some type of head gear. I have had 2 private students that fought for me a few times in Muay Thai and I must admit I trained them harder and sparred them then any other student...but it was private and I also k now how to control my technique...

Of course accidents can happen but they shouldn't happen by an experienced individual often at all. The worst I ever hurt someone was when they were holding Thai pads for me and held the pads for a head kick but for some weird reason dropped the pads at the last second which resulted in my shin across their face. It wasn't even in sparring...was in pad work, go figure.

[Dragn]

I train inＤａｉｄｏｊｕｋｕ，　ｗｈｉｃｈ　ｉｓ　ｒｅｆｅｒｅｄ　ｔｏ　ａｓ　ａ　ｆｕｌｌ　ｃｏｎｔａｃｔ　ｓｔｙｌｅ．　Ｉｎ　ｃｏｍｐｅｔｉｔｉｏｎ　ｔｈａｔｓ　ｅｘａｃｔｌｙ　ｗｈａｔ　ｉｔ　ｉｓ．Ｂｕｔ　ｉｎ　ｒｅｇｕｌａｒ　ｔｒａｉｎｉｎｇ　ｗｅ　ｗｅａｒ　ｔｈｉｃｋ　ｓｈｉｎ　ｐａｄｓ　，　ｆｉｎｇｅｒｌｅｓｓ　ｇｌｏｖｅｓ，　ａｎｄ　ｈｅａｄｇｅａｒ，　ａｎｄ　ｗｅ　ｈｏｌｄ　ｂａｃｋ　ｊｕｓｔ　ｅｎｏｕｇｈ　ｏｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｐｏｗｅｒ　ｔｏ　ｒｅｄｕｃｅ　ｓｅｒｉｏｕｓ　ｉｎｊｕｒｙ．Ｓｔｉｌｌ　ｉｎｊｕｒｉｅｓ　ａｒｅ　ｃｏｍｍｏｎ．　

Ｓｈｏｔｓ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　ｂｏｄｙ　ａｒｅ　ｓｏｍｅｔｉｍｅｓ　ｔｈｒｏｗｎ　ｆｕｌｌ　ｐｏｗｅｒ　ａｎｄ　ｇｕｙｓ　ｄｏ　ｇｅｔ　ｄｒｏｐｐｅｄ．Ｂｕｔ　ｗｅ’ｒｅ　ｎｏｔ　ｓｉｌｌｙ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｉｔ．Ｔｈｅ　ｈｉｇｈｅｒ　ｒａｎｋｓ　ｈａｖｅ　ｂｅｔｔｅｒ　ｃｏｎｔｒｏｌ　ａｎｄ　ｓｏ　ｗｅ　ｋｎｏｗ　ｈｏｗ　ｆａｒ　ｗｅ　ｃａｎ　ｇｏ．　Ｉｔｓ　ｔｈｅ　ｌｏｗｅｒ　ｒａｎｋｓ　ｔｈａｔ　ｔｅｎｄ　ｔｏ　ｇｅｔ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｏｕｔ　ｏｆ　ｈａｎｄ．

Ｓｏ　ｕｓｕａｌｌｙ　ｃｏｎｔａｃｔ　ｉｓ　ｌｉｍｉｔｅｄ　ａｍｏｕｎｇ　ｔｈｅ　ｌｏｗｅｒ　ｒａｎｋｓ　ｕｎｔｉｌ　ｔｈｅｙ’ｖｅ　ｇｏｔ　ｔｈｅｉｒ　ｔｅｃｈｎｉｑｕｅ　ａｎｄ　ｃｏｎｔｒｏｌ　ｔｏ　ａ　ｃｅｒｔａｉｎ　ｌｅｖｅｌ．

[Charlie]

I train inＤａｉｄｏｊｕｋｕ

Where in Tokyo is your Daido Juku dojo located?

[Dragn]

Sorry I've been slow to reply. I totally forgot about this thread.

I train at the kichijoji branch. Its on the Chuo line. Although we are a Daidojuku dojo we are heavily Muay Thai influenced, and compete in kickboxing events too.

[elbows_and_knees]

You'd probably end up like Ali. Hits to the head are never good. Frequent hits to the head cause damage down the road. Not telling anyone anything that they do not know.

true, head trauma is no good. but look at how many boxers actually have parkinson's - it's very few, in comarison to the number of boxers there are.

[daikento shukokai]

The only way that you will be able to define the nature of "full Contact" within this new Dojo is to ask the sesei running the club. As you can see from all the previous responces, their are a number definitions put forward. Full contact could mean that the sysytem of fighting does not involve any element of control or alternatively it may allow full force strikes with rules outlining legal and illegal sparring techniques.

However the term is specifically defined, it is essential that suitable protection is worn to prevent injury. In my club we utilise Full polycarbonate faced headguards, shin and insteps and grappling gloves, but we do not allow strikes to the Knees or groin areas.

[Kajukenbopr]

Honestly, full contact can mean different things to different people.

To me IT SHOULD MEAN legkicks, knees, punches to the face, headkicks, etc. allowed but it doesn't in most "full contact" schools I have gone to.

I don't kow if your Chong Nhu(sp?) will be benificial for you if the techniques I mentioned above are allowed...I mean no disprespect but I've seen some Chong Nhu yudansha/black belts spar and it's nothing like Kyokushin/muay thai/etc. But you probably will learn some good stuff training in this atmosphere that can help you grow as a martial artist.

Full contact in karate schools means fighting in means of knocking out the opponent.

the use of knees, elbows and some other strikes one normally wouldnt use in karate are not used in full contact but in "Free sparring" or "free match" when the sensei indicates it, where you try to either defend urself from an attacker or win a fight using any means(knees,elbows,etc)

usually this is not done in KARATE schools to avoid certain injuries.

however, thats only from the schools i know