Shotokan karate

[yamesu]

Ive seen that at some schools too.

[Killer Miller]

Shotokan has always been bashed. There are several reasons why.

We are kind of a secluded art and don't really mingle with most of the other arts. Generally, we don't cross train with others, we don't recognize other ranks, we don't invite others to our tournaments, we don't invite others to our dojo, and we don't participate in non-Shotokan tournaments. This is viewed as snooty and un-friendly.

But, this appearance is very decieving to the outside groups... We are actually a very friendly group that is very BUSY and Structured in our training. We don't have time to participate or mingle with other groups and tournaments because we are a very active organization in our own activity. Many of us are/were, like I was, active 6 or 7 days a week training or going to tournaments, testing, and training camps. We welcome others to train with us as guests, respect their rank, but do not recognize their rank as an equivelent to Shotokan standards. This is not to say many didn't meet up to our standards - and many didn't even come close to our training standards either. Regardless, they were treated with respect and open arms just the same. Typically, visitors wouldn't come back because they felt the training was too brutal for them.

When a training session started in one of our Shotokan classes, it was dead quiet and you trained you tail off. The classes are very structured and with a primary purpose and goal for the day. The instruction is reasonably standardized across the organization. Yes, there are still instructors that just never got it... and had poor technique and are not very good instructors. You will also find minor variations in interpretation of the art and technique in general. But, the basic structure is still there organization wide. It's a great organization just the same and what you will learn, and who you will meet will benefit you the rest of your life. I stongly recommend it to anyone...

Commonly, it would be Shotokan, and then everyone else. We were just considered outsiders. However, considering all of the bashing, when we walked in somewhere, or checked out a tournament in our limited time, they knew who we were and were quite polite and quiet around us - which in my book was definately a sign of respect to us as to who we really were in the world of MA.

- Killer -

[Takeda Shingen]

KM - Arigatoh gozaimasu. Very, very insightful explanation and description. This is true. Some people go to Ke-rah-ti or Mcdojo, as some say, then enjoy endless discussion, debate, breaking pine boards, punching clappers, and talking in meaningless detailed explanation of moves ... "when attacker does this, you do that..." "when an opponent comes in, you block, grab twist, sweep, twirl, strike, dance on the top of bamboo chasing Zhao Ziyang, etc".

Solid Kihon done correctly will humble anyone....doing the basics, training earnestly and hard, pushing your limits, quiet like a still ocean - ready to whip into a maelstrom -- and outside the dojo - no need to talk about it.

Just put on the gi and let the waza do the talking.

Osu.

TS

[foofies]

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''when attacker does this, you do that..." "when an opponent comes in, you block, grab twist, sweep, twirl, strike, dance on the top of bamboo chasing Zhao Ziyang, etc.

You mean shotakan karate is taught like this?? but thats doesnt really work on the street right?? jeez

[Takeda Shingen]

... Ke-rah-ti or Mcdojo...

I am sorry I did not come across correctly. I meant that non-Shotokan does this...

Shotokan is good for mushin...just doing it over and over. Not so much talking...learning so you body does it automatically...not time to think

Osu.

TS

[Killer Miller]

Don't touch my mustache!

Those whom speak nihongo will understand...

- Killer -

KM - Arigatoh gozaimasu. Very, very insightful explanation and description. This is true. Some people go to Ke-rah-ti or Mcdojo, as some say, then enjoy endless discussion, debate, breaking pine boards, punching clappers, and talking in meaningless detailed explanation of moves ... "when attacker does this, you do that..." "when an opponent comes in, you block, grab twist, sweep, twirl, strike, dance on the top of bamboo chasing Zhao Ziyang, etc".

Solid Kihon done correctly will humble anyone....doing the basics, training earnestly and hard, pushing your limits, quiet like a still ocean - ready to whip into a maelstrom -- and outside the dojo - no need to talk about it.

Just put on the gi and let the waza do the talking.

Osu.

TS

[Takeda Shingen]

oh, ...yes, I should have said..

"ten ants"

Osu.

TS

[foofies]

lol

[Killer Miller]

lol

[malanovaus]

I agree rock solid kihon will help anyone's training, it is just unfortunate that there aren't any nearby Shotokan dojos in my area to try. Especially since Shotokan is at the complete opposite of my primary style. But nonetheless great information.