Wrestling and BJJ

[baronbvp]

NightOwl, I am doing Combat Submission Grappling right now. Here's the blurb from my JKD school's website:

Ground Fighting-Combat Submission Wrestling/Shootfighting

This is not about chokes, arm locks, or knee bars-It’s about staying on your feet or getting back to your feet to survive. Our ground fighting program was developed with this in mind.

Erik Paulson, who is also a long time student of Dan Inosanto, developed Combat Submission Wrestling by combining the practical application of Judo, Freestyle Wrestling and Greco-Roman Wrestling with techniques and submissions from Shootwrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Sombo and Catchascatchcan. We practice the locks, and apply street fighting aspects by adding in the lost art of Kino Mutai, (pinching and biting), and “ground and pound” to our submission fighting. This is the JKD of ground fighting.

I haven't seen the biting and pinching part.

My previous post was about freestyle wrestling. I wrestled for a year in high school and wanted to research those moves again and perhaps practice some.

[bushido_man96]

NightOwl, I am doing Combat Submission Grappling right now. Here's the blurb from my JKD school's website:

Ground Fighting-Combat Submission Wrestling/Shootfighting

This is not about chokes, arm locks, or knee bars-It’s about staying on your feet or getting back to your feet to survive. Our ground fighting program was developed with this in mind.

Erik Paulson, who is also a long time student of Dan Inosanto, developed Combat Submission Wrestling by combining the practical application of Judo, Freestyle Wrestling and Greco-Roman Wrestling with techniques and submissions from Shootwrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Sombo and Catchascatchcan. We practice the locks, and apply street fighting aspects by adding in the lost art of Kino Mutai, (pinching and biting), and “ground and pound” to our submission fighting. This is the JKD of ground fighting.

I haven't seen the biting and pinching part.

My previous post was about freestyle wrestling. I wrestled for a year in high school and wanted to research those moves again and perhaps practice some.

This is kind of how me and my partner approach ground fighting from an LEO standpoint. We don't want to be on the ground for very long...we want to be back up as quickly as possible. Too much stuff on the duty belt to be rolling around and get taken advantage of.

[bushido_man96]

I think if you just got into it, Baron, you would be surprised at what comes back to you. You may surprise yourself.

Maybe so, though I don't really have a place to do it. I checked one of those books out from the library, the one for beginners. It's pretty good, but it doesn't say exactly how to do the different moves and it stops short of some of those that I remember. It was a good refresher but I will look for the other book.

Me and my partners wrestled around a little yesterday, and when I got on top of my opponent, I went into the traditional "on top" wrestlers' position, without really thinking about it. Hehe...kind of fun to do that!

[baronbvp]

Yep, except my natural instinct right now is to avoid my shoulders being pinned and go to my stomach. That's the worst place for a grappler! I also don't know how to finish yet. Pins don't mean much compared to chokes and locks.

[NightOwl]

True, and that's where (High School wrestling at least) has one of it's biggest weaknesses. Nevertheless, it has some of the nicest clinches you can get!

[bushido_man96]

Yep, except my natural instinct right now is to avoid my shoulders being pinned and go to my stomach. That's the worst place for a grappler! I also don't know how to finish yet. Pins don't mean much compared to chokes and locks.

I agree. That was a problem that I had a while back. Persistence and practice help to break those habits, though.

[bushido_man96]

True, and that's where (High School wrestling at least) has one of it's biggest weaknesses. Nevertheless, it has some of the nicest clinches you can get!

I agree. Great for clinches, and takedowns. I think if you could just take the rule set away when you practice, who knows what else you could find that would work, technique-wise, out of wrestling.

Overall, I think it is still a great style to study. The conditioning is great, as well.

[baronbvp]

Grappling and wrestling now, though...

I'm a little old to like being bent like a pretzel. It has taken some getting used to again.