Uechi Kid Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Not going to be able to trian for a while, maybe ever. I just had knee replacement surgery on December second. The Doctor doesn't want me to train after my recovery is over. We trend to train the softer side of karate(joint locks, pressure points and that kind of thing) so I'll still be able to do that. But I'm going to miss the harder side off training. Any of you that know anything about Uechi Ryu, know it's a hard style. More Practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traditional-Fist Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I believe that Uechi-Ryu contains a great amount of kung fu influence. As a result it has both hard and soft aspects to it. The Sanchin kata practiced in this and some other okinawan styles is adopted from chinese kung fu style of Wu Zhu Kwan (Five Ancestor Fist). However, the manner it is practiced in Karate is quiet different from the way it is practised in kung fu.Uechi-Ryu is known for its body hardening training, some of which is done during the Sanchin kata practice. A technique that is claimed to be exclusive(within karate styles) to this style of karate, is the toe-kick, where the conditioned toes are used to strike vital points of the opponent. In fact, the toes are hardened to such an extent that the exponents are able to break several wooden boards with their kicks.Another-claimed - exclusive technique is the thumb knuckle strike which is usually aimed at the throat of the adversary. Again, the thumb knuckle is conditioned to an extent where the exponet can break wooden boards with single strikes.All the above info refers to Uechi-Ryu Karate as practiced on the Island of Okinawa. I have no idea of how it is practiced here in the West.If trained properly Uechi-Ryu is a very effective self defense system because of its lethal and no nonsense techniques including its thumb knuckle strikes, usually-aimed at the throat, that seem to be exclusive to this style. Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathe Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Speaking from the experience of 4 broken knees and 3 more broken leg bones you will recover if your heart really wants to get back into training. Many broken bones through my life and I've always recovered and gotten back into it. Just really keep up with your rehab and take your time and heal correctly. Good luck! https://www.dancing-crane.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairfax_Uechi Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Not going to be able to trian for a while, maybe ever. I just had knee replacement surgery on December second. The Doctor doesn't want me to train after my recovery is over. We trend to train the softer side of karate(joint locks, pressure points and that kind of thing) so I'll still be able to do that. But I'm going to miss the harder side off training. Any of you that know anything about Uechi Ryu, know it's a hard style. Good luck. Take it a day at a time, and let your body heal. From there, if you love it, you'll find a way to work around your limitations without imposing serious harm to yourself. Listen to your heart, your Sensei, and your doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairfax_Uechi Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I believe that Uechi-Ryu contains a great amount of kung fu influence. As a result it has both hard and soft aspects to it. The Sanchin kata practiced in this and some other okinawan styles is adopted from chinese kung fu style of Wu Zhu Kwan (Five Ancestor Fist). However, the manner it is practiced in Karate is quiet different from the way it is practised in kung fu.Uechi-Ryu is known for its body hardening training, some of which is done during the Sanchin kata practice. A technique that is claimed to be exclusive(within karate styles) to this style of karate, is the toe-kick, where the conditioned toes are used to strike vital points of the opponent. In fact, the toes are hardened to such an extent that the exponents are able to break several wooden boards with their kicks.Another-claimed - exclusive technique is the thumb knuckle strike which is usually aimed at the throat of the adversary. Again, the thumb knuckle is conditioned to an extent where the exponet can break wooden boards with single strikes.All the above info refers to Uechi-Ryu Karate as practiced on the Island of Okinawa. I have no idea of how it is practiced here in the West.If trained properly Uechi-Ryu is a very effective self defense system because of its lethal and no nonsense techniques including its thumb knuckle strikes, usually-aimed at the throat, that seem to be exclusive to this style.Well said. I have several friends that train in TKD, and it amazes me the things that they do. They do some beautiful things, but many of them, I'd never consider in a situation where I had to bet my life. I'd rather rely on the basic blocks, kicks, and "pointy things" of Ueichi. We may not have a lot of flash, but like you said, we have some very nasty stuff that can really work well.As far as how folks train. Most of the Uechi folks that I know train pretty intense, and I'd say they can hold their on to most folks. You're right about the body conditioning it really comes in handy with the in-fighting that we also do. One thing that's very effective is how we do a circular block, grab someone then pull them along. Not something most punks that you'll encounter will expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uechi Kid Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) Traditional-Fist. Right on about Uechi Ryu.Thanks for all of your support. Getting stronger every day. Edited December 15, 2005 by Uechi Kid More Practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2_sub Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Knee injuries are the nastiest good luck man Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleung Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I've had both of my ACLs replaced in my knees and the recoveries from the surgeries was even tougher than the actual injuries themselves. But there is life after knee surgeries. Do everything that the rehab people tell you to do and don't rush things. Take the time to learn or do something else that doesn't require your knees. Your leg might never feel the way it was before the surgery but you can still do martial arts. Maybe not the same way as before but you can still be very much involved. I'm still competing and do pretty good even though my techniques have changed quite a bit. I can't do certain things anymore but I'm able to do other things too. Do whatever martial arts you can with your post surgery and rehab body. Good luck to you. ClintFree Spirit Martial Arts Activewearhttp://www.FreeSpiritActivewear.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meguro Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Cheer up. It may be too early to tell what your surgery will prevent you from doing down the road. Concentrate on recovery and rehab first. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Rick Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I wonder if a ground art might be a good thing. Seems like they would be less jaring to the knee, and the guard holding positions might help to train the muscles around the knee, which is what you need.Find a careful training partner and let them know your injury before you start any training. These arts have a lot of hard core players so be particular about your partners. place clever martial arts phrase here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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