Kyokushin Ontario?

[IronWarrior]

Does anyone know of any Good Kyokushin Dojos in Ontario close to the Toronto/Hamilton area?

[shogeri]

Kyokushin starts out with Shotokan and ends up with Goju Ryu.

You could always just search out a Goju Ryu School in the case of not finding any Kyokushin instructors.

[kyospirit]

,,Kyokushin starts out with Shotokan and ends up with Goju Ryu.,,

...hm, that maybe was true 30 years ago , doesn't aply now ...

[shogeri]

One might try

https://www.kyokushinontario.com

or

http://www.kyokushin.ca/dojos.html

or

http://www.kyokushincanada.com/KyokushinDojosInCanada.htm

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According to this site below, which is all about Sosai Masutatsu Oyama the founder of Kyokushin says quite differently:

http://www.masutatsuoyama.com/kyokushinkata.htm

This site concurs with the above:

http://www.diegobeltran.com/htms/dojo/kyokushinkatas.htm

And both sites say that Kyokushin is:

Kyoku meaning Ultimate.

Shin meaning truth or reality.

Kai meaning to meet, join or associate.

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I have trained in both Shotokan and Goju Ryu, and feel that the syllabus or training schedule of kata listed on the site above is what the core of Kyokushin Karate should be, and to deviate from that is to not be practicing the true way of Kyokushin by Masutatsu Oyama.

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Now there are Kyokushin tournaments, or kumite based events, but that is separate (yet a component of the modern expression) from the martial art itself.

The question is kyospirit, just what flavor Kyokushin are you speaking of?

[feels]

"Real fighting cannot exist without proof;

proof cannot exist without trust;

and trust cannot exist without respect."

- Sosai Oyama

Kyokushin Karate uses kata as a tool along with stretching, kihon, ido geiko, strength exercises, cardio exercises, kumite, etc. to improve combat techniques. It maintains the use of traditional katas, but it's practiced more for application than philosophy.

[shogeri]

Sounds like Martial Art based Karate to me...As was its purpose.

[ivette_green]

http://www.kyokushin.ca/dojos/ottawa.html

[washjeff09]

Kyokushin Karate uses kata as a tool along with stretching, kihon, ido geiko, strength exercises, cardio exercises, kumite, etc. to improve combat techniques. It maintains the use of traditional katas, but it's practiced more for application than philosophy.

Exactly. I was just discussing this with my shihan. One of my buddies who doesn't practice karate was asking me what the point of kata was. I couldn't give a good answer so I talked with my shihan and he told me, when he's at his best in kumite, he's also at his best in kata. From what I understand, kata helps with the karateka's balance and flow during kumite, obviously two important aspects. In my own training and in the training of others I have noticed this too. For example, I see excellent boxers come into the dojo, and they think they can fight well, but they look horribly awkward and they end up getting beat up pretty bad, their kata seems to match their fighting style which sometimes seems very rigid. Once I start to notice their improvement in kata, I also seem to notice that their flow and blance in kumite is much better.

Sorry to go off topic there.

[feels]

Academically speaking, my branch teaches that kata helps with power control, speed control, and breath control. If one has good kata, he cannot have horrible fighting skills; or else, his kata is not good in the first place.