Systema

[Vince]

I am a Shotokan stylist and have found it to be a very effective combative art but as combative styles go I like to recomend people looking for somthing simple direct and esey to learn russian Systema. i have posted some video clips on the style and am interested in what some of you think.

http://www.vsocial.com/video/?l=1012

[saishu]

I am a Shotokan stylist and have found it to be a very effective combative art but as combative styles go I like to recomend people looking for somthing simple direct and esey to learn russian Systema. i have posted some video clips on the style and am interested in what some of you think.

http://www.vsocial.com/video/?l=1012

The techniques in the videos look very similar to Saishu Ryu. Esp the knife fighting. I would say go for it if you can find a school.

Tomo

[TheAnimal]

You know, I have to admit I liked some parts of those videos. Like the small space fighting where the guy behind the dest takes the other ones arm out from under him then twists his neck around, or throws his hand into a drawer and closes it... but some of the other stuff in there, particulalry the strikes, are a joke. They flail their hands loosely and hit them with no force whatsoever, wouldnt do a thing to a person in real life. Also, a lot of their gun/knife removal techniques are pretty idealistic looking to me. However, I did like the personal defense one about how to move with a gun if youre the one armed- most of those looked pretty good. Thats my two cents.

[Ali]

https://www.russianmartialart.com <---- Some video there

I have done some drills of Systema.

No kata nor Form.

Practical, simple, effective, interesting

and deadly in case you done that well.

Breath out and swing is 2 way that they eliminate strike

from other. Of course, need to keep the "Form"

and stay relax. (Form is the posture that need to stay

during whatever or whenever even you lose balance,

or to be simple, consider from head to backbone stay

straight and as a whole solid piece)

Do that well, you can counter attack at the same

time later also.

Bone breaking may happen always coz

most of them may use full power to punch ribs and

different part randomly during training.

Not to hurt but to help. Each person would treat other

friendly with the intention to train together and not

to show off or hurt

P.S. Just a beginner' viewpoint & non-native speaker above,

but I would say that they are definately not fake.

[Ali]

You know, I have to admit I liked some parts of those videos. Like the small space fighting where the guy behind the dest takes the other ones arm out from under him then twists his neck around, or throws his hand into a drawer and closes it... but some of the other stuff in there, particulalry the strikes, are a joke. They flail their hands loosely and hit them with no force whatsoever, wouldnt do a thing to a person in real life. Also, a lot of their gun/knife removal techniques are pretty idealistic looking to me. However, I did like the personal defense one about how to move with a gun if youre the one armed- most of those looked pretty good. Thats my two cents.

The Animal,

Sorry that I dont agree your point

The "strikes" are not joke....

I felt that 1 month ago and the feeling just like the force

penetrated inside my stomach and seems power wave rebound

outside. And I want to vomit at that moment and lose at least

6 - 7 seconds before I can recover. (The guy did not use full power yet)

The guy shows me this is about 30's something and trained

in Canada for 5 years

I wonder that internal Chinese martial art or maybe karate

may also achieve that sort of effect.

And also [Discovery Channel] has introduced this martial art.

P.S. Personally, I tried BJJ, Muay Thai and etc.

Just written what I have experienced for other reference

[TheAnimal]

Were you flexing your stomache?

[Ali]

Were you flexing your stomache?

No

P.S. By the way, even I dont believe that they can achieve that

sort of effect. This is natural not to believe.

Originally, I thought that they were just playing fake while

looking at the video.

[TheAnimal]

!?

Well hell man, if you're not flexing your stomache it doesnt take much to hurt you. Why do you think fighters build up their abs!?

I understand that some power can be built by whipping your body around, its the same principal that allows randy johnson to throw 90+ mph fastballs. There was one clip in the videos where the guy totally wound up and hit a focus mit in a very similar manner to throwing a baseball. Yea, you can build up a lot of speed there, but so what? Are you going to fight like that? Anyway, if you tell me its on the same power level as an experienced boxer/kickboxer... no way.

[Ali]

!?

Well hell man, if you're not flexing your stomache it doesnt take much to hurt you. Why do you think fighters build up their abs!?

I understand that some power can be built by whipping your body around, its the same principal that allows randy johnson to throw 90+ mph fastballs. There was one clip in the videos where the guy totally wound up and hit a focus mit in a very similar manner to throwing a baseball. Yea, you can build up a lot of speed there, but so what? Are you going to fight like that? Anyway, if you tell me its on the same power level as an experienced boxer/kickboxer... no way.

OK, sorry to make you confusing.

As I have mentioned that I am not Native speaker.

Too lazy to look into dictionary....for the word [flex]

I mean my abs was flexing.

P.S. Of course, I did try to build up my ads by flexing

abs and breathe out when trainer used Thai kickpad

to hit my ads