quistions for Aikido

[mean fighter]

I was wondering, does Aikido relly never make the first move And what are there principles

[orion82698]

Well, I can tell you, from watching my Uncle.... it's usually not the first move. My Uncle and I spar when we both have time (hasn't been in a while). I'll usually come at him with an attack, and he'll just act like nothing is going on, then WHAM! I'm on the ground. Can hurt too sometimes. One time he really put me down hard (not on purpose) and gave me one serious headache

It's an awesome art, but hard to practice (IMO) without a partner

[gheinisch]

I'm going to move this to the General forum. I think defense is probably the first move in most Martial Arts, not to say that a preemptive strike is out of the question. Depending on the the situation many things can change.

[y2_sub]

Well , it's mostly a defensive style , but from what I remember we also learned some offensive moves , we learned some chokeholds , arm locks and throws . I personally think that you can use most of Aikido’s defensive moves in an offensive way

[shogeri]

Aikido is about reaction to stimuli on a highly sensitive level. It is about guiding oncoming force in a circular motion (rotation) becoming the axis of the movement.

Much like traditional jujutsu circular techniques based upon the principle of jiyu jizai (free and unrestricted).

Essential when one moves from the center, and does not allow another into their center, they control the situation.

This is similar to the concepts found in Wing chun, Chi' Na, Taijiquan, and Baquazhang to name a few.

Many of these styles use blending, or the principle of confluence (or flowing/molding/shaping) energy.

In karate, traditionally, there are no first strikes. One can lead a situation, or guide the opponent to a given point, but again, there are technically no pre-emptive strikes in karate either.

Aikijutus does employ pre-emptive setup techniques, and whether they can be construed as strikes, is questionable. Since every block is also a strike, or leads to one or combination of various waza.

In sum, I have found no place(on paper) where an aikidoka is taught to actually strike with intent to hit a target.

Those are my thoughts

[mean fighter]

Also IM not sure if this is just a myth but have you guys heard that this one martial art is mostly preffered around police officers

[shogeri]

Jujutsu as well. Mostly any style that teaches defense, while controlling the situation with as little force as necessary is what most police administrations or organizations desire.

[glockmeister]

Also IM not sure if this is just a myth but have you guys heard that this one martial art is mostly preffered around police officers

Don't know if I would say it is most preferred by police officers as much as the Administrators. True, a lot of the wrist locks and such are effective in subduing perps and therefore it is somewhat populat with LE, I personally belive that the main reason that Aikido styles are taught to LE is more because it tends to be a "softer" style and a less agressive style and therefore better to teach the officers instead of someting harder and more agressive like say, Krav Maga or Karate because it lessens the likelihood of lawsuits.

[White Warlock]

It is more applicable to what is encountered on the streets, and yes, its fundamentals present a less aggressive approach to subduing an opponent. As to being more applicable, it is about redirecting energy and is more geared to the singular overcommitted assaults presented by desperate criminals, drunks, and drug addicts. I have no idea whether it is pushed by administrations more than any other art. I have never heard of this, nor am i inclined to believe it by default.

I do know there are various training programs out there that are adopted by various police departments, medical facilities, and mental health facilities. Each to their own needs, but a particular system in and of itself... i am not aware of such acceptance.

[h2whoa]

Aikido is about reaction to stimuli on a highly sensitive level. It is about guiding oncoming force in a circular motion (rotation) becoming the axis of the movement.

Much like traditional jujutsu circular techniques based upon the principle of jiyu jizai (free and unrestricted).

Essential when one moves from the center, and does not allow another into their center, they control the situation.

This is similar to the concepts found in Wing chun, Chi' Na, Taijiquan, and Baquazhang to name a few.

Many of these styles use blending, or the principle of confluence (or flowing/molding/shaping) energy.

In karate, traditionally, there are no first strikes. One can lead a situation, or guide the opponent to a given point, but again, there are technically no pre-emptive strikes in karate either.

Aikijutus does employ pre-emptive setup techniques, and whether they can be construed as strikes, is questionable. Since every block is also a strike, or leads to one or combination of various waza.

In sum, I have found no place(on paper) where an aikidoka is taught to actually strike with intent to hit a target.

Those are my thoughts

Very similar to hapkido!