mean fighter Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Hope Im not tickin everyone off but arent most weapons just extentions of youre hands If you wash your hands in anger, you never have clean hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Well, "just" is such a limiting word. Weapons are not just extensions, nor of merely the hand. The hand itself is an extension, an extension of you, but it is not merely just. Indeed, it is a part of you. As well, so should a weapon be a part of you, when you wield it. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leopard claw Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Good call WW. I also think weapons are an extension of the mind too! How many nuns could a nunchuk chuck if a nunchuk could chuck nuns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sengra Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 One thing I really learned in fencing is treating your sword/blade as a part of yourself. Once you get used to the weapon, your movements become natural. You no longer feel uneasy with your stance. The first time I ever held a fencing blade,I felt really uneasy, but once you get used to it, you become more relaxed, your reactions faster and you have better point control. The stronger swordsman does not always win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauzin Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Awareness can extend the sense of self to anything really but in reality weapons are tools. Just something you learn to use with your hands and body in unison. By learning weapons you are learning tools. Tools allow you to be more effective. Your extended sense of self is mearly a byproduct. You could use the same logic/ideology to say that your opponent is an extension of your self in a fight as well, you're just waiting to establish control of it, the same way you do when you pick up a stick. The only two things that stand between an effective art and one that isn't are a tradition to draw knowledge from and the mind to practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Your opponent presents a sentience of its own, and therefore does not quite 'cooperate' with this concept of extension of self. As an idealism, yes, but otherwise not practical nor logical. On the other hand, it is practical to visualize weapons as extensions. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauzin Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Your opponent presents a sentience of its own, and therefore does not quite 'cooperate' with this concept of extension of self. If you have control he doesn't have to.As an idealism, yes, but otherwise not practical nor logical. On the other hand, it is practical to visualize weapons as extensions.I think this all depends on when and how you "pick up the stick". I find it very practical. The only two things that stand between an effective art and one that isn't are a tradition to draw knowledge from and the mind to practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Your opponent presents a sentience of its own, and therefore does not quite 'cooperate' with this concept of extension of self. If you have control he doesn't have to.Hehe, and the magic word is, "if." "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauzin Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Well yea, you have to gain control first. That's never assumed. I just find it's easier to get there with certain conceptualizations. The only two things that stand between an effective art and one that isn't are a tradition to draw knowledge from and the mind to practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Owned!!lol, get it? "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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