New guys, looking for alittle advice.

[Muaythaiboxer]

JUDO PROS

1. usually tought very well

2. great throws

3. proficient at ground game

4. usually good conditioning

5. makes you tough (takeing falls over and over)

JUDO CONS

1. takes alot of hard work to make the throws work

2. no strikeing

3. other styles have better ground fighting

4. little stand up locking

5. use of Gi

JIUJITSU PROS

1. very well rounded

2. great stand up locking

3. focus on self defence

4. training with resisting partner (most of the time)

JIUJITSU CONS

1. sometimes little conditioning

2. better strikeing available

3. better groud fighting available

4. sometimes not well tought

5. uses Gi

BJJ PROS

1. usually very well tought

2. usually good conditioning

3. groud fighting second to none

4. quick to learn (basics for SD anyway)

5. resisting partners

BJJ CONS

1. no standup (or very poor)

2. little stand up locking

3. poor takedowns compaired to other arts

4. use of Gi (most of the time)

[Muaythaiboxer]

JUDO PROS

1. usually tought very well

2. great throws

3. proficient at ground game

4. usually good conditioning

5. makes you tough (takeing falls over and over)

JUDO CONS

1. takes alot of hard work to make the throws work

2. no strikeing

3. other styles have better ground fighting

4. little stand up locking

5. use of Gi

JIUJITSU PROS

1. very well rounded

2. great stand up locking

3. focus on self defence

4. training with resisting partner (most of the time)

JIUJITSU CONS

1. sometimes little conditioning

2. better strikeing available

3. better groud fighting available

4. sometimes not well tought

5. uses Gi

BJJ PROS

1. usually very well tought

2. usually good conditioning

3. groud fighting second to none

4. quick to learn (basics for SD anyway)

5. resisting partners

BJJ CONS

1. no standup (or very poor)

2. little stand up locking

3. poor takedowns compaired to other arts

4. use of Gi (most of the time)

i would go with JJJ for SD as long as the school is a good one

[RedRaven]

Does anyone actually know this Marco Alvan, or know were I can get other sources to look up his history, training, philosphy etc etc?

[Adonis]

http://bjj.org/a/people/alvan-marco.html

this shows who his linage is as far as training goes.

He got his black belt from Carlos Augusto who in turn got his black belt from Robson Gracie who got his from Carlos Gracie Sr.

At least acording to BJJ.org on marco's personal site he says his teacher Carlos Augosto got his black belt from Reylson Gracie.