Jay Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Yeah i heard that a guy called Hayward Nishioka ran a study to which was more powerful a JKD punch or a karate punch im wondering if anyone can give any scientific information on why the JKD punch was more poerful anyone that has any info or opinions on this id like to hear them.If i get some good stuff then i may be able to use this information for my physics cw The key to everything is continuity achieved by discipline.
Anbu Alex Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 In jkd like kung fu, boxing and tai jutsu they put their whole body into the punch to create proper body and bone elinement with power coming from the legs and opening the hips so in actuallity they are hit with their body weight not arm strength White belt for life"Destroy the enemies power but leave his life"
elbows_and_knees Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 In jkd like kung fu, boxing and tai jutsu they put their whole body into the punch to create proper body and bone elinement with power coming from the legs and opening the hips so in actuallity they are hit with their body weight not arm strengthAll proper punches in ANY style do that. The JKD and WC punches utilize a vertical fist, which is a more anatomically correct formation. However, IME, their punches really aren't that powerful.
shogeri Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 They use a technique, which is not typically taught in karate, and or TKD.That is, through sensitivity training, such as push hands, one can train their strikes to have such sensitivity as well.When the strike first impacts body is relaxed, the arm is relaxed (since it is thrown by the motion of the waist), and there is a quick turn of the wrist into a fist. Traditional karateka are trained to stop there. With JKD (which borrows this from Taiji as do many others), Taijiquan, and Baguazhang (et al);Upon impact, your waist moves in the opposite direction, and then back toward the opponent again.This is called coiling. Similar to how a snake strikes.When the waist moves back, this stops the energy (of the impact) from being absorbed into your arm, which allows you to further your second impact into your opponent.It is like striking them twice, but with only one instance of contact.At slow speeds this is called anjing.The more internal one makes it, it then becames fajing.It takes years to perfect. At first, even the novice can achieve anjing. But without push hands, and or practicing the taijiquan form, it will hard to actually achieve fajing strikes.I have witnessed them, and they are different. I can partially do anjing, but many times I am not relaxed, nor is my internal energy balanced properly. Which means other body dynamics may not come into play.----------Just thought I would add my two bits... Current:Head Instructor - ShoNaibuDo - TCM/Taijiquan/Chinese Boxing InstructorPast:TKD ~ 1st Dan, Goju Ryu ~ Trained up 2nd Dan - Brown belt 1 stripe, Kickboxing (Muay Thai) & Jujutsu InstructorBe at peace, and share peace with others...
Traditional-Fist Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 They use a technique, which is not typically taught in karate, and or TKD.That is, through sensitivity training, such as push hands, one can train their strikes to have such sensitivity as well.When the strike first impacts body is relaxed, the arm is relaxed (since it is thrown by the motion of the waist), and there is a quick turn of the wrist into a fist. Traditional karateka are trained to stop there. With JKD (which borrows this from Taiji as do many others), Taijiquan, and Baguazhang (et al);Upon impact, your waist moves in the opposite direction, and then back toward the opponent again.This is called coiling. Similar to how a snake strikes.When the waist moves back, this stops the energy (of the impact) from being absorbed into your arm, which allows you to further your second impact into your opponent.It is like striking them twice, but with only one instance of contact.At slow speeds this is called anjing.The more internal one makes it, it then becames fajing.It takes years to perfect. At first, even the novice can achieve anjing. But without push hands, and or practicing the taijiquan form, it will hard to actually achieve fajing strikes.I have witnessed them, and they are different. I can partially do anjing, but many times I am not relaxed, nor is my internal energy balanced properly. Which means other body dynamics may not come into play.----------Just thought I would add my two bits...Interesting. I did not know that JKD used such internal concepts. I did think that it touched uppon them but did not think that they delved into them any deeper. Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways".
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