Treebranch Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 UFC has alot of rules about 32 of them, things you can't do. No butting of the head, eye gouging, biting, hair pulling, fish hooking, GROIN ATTACKS, putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or lacteration on an opponent, SMALL JOINT MANIPULATION, striking to the spine or the back of the head, striking downward using the point of the elbow, throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea, clawing, pinching or twisting of the flesh, grabbing the clavicle, kicking the head of a grounded opponent, kneeing the head of a grounded opponent, STOMPING A GROUNDED OPPONENT, kicking the kidney with the heel, spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck, Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area, holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent, spitting at an opponent, engaging in an usportmanlike CONDUCT THAT CAUSES INJURY TO AN OPPONENT, holding the ropes or the fence, using abusive language in the ring, attacking and opponent on or during the break, attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee, attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat, flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee, timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking injury, interference by the corner, throwing in the towel during competition. WOW! Maybe this is why Masters of Combat Style of MA don't fight in these competitions. Sorry, but in a real fight everything goes. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 It's a sport, that's why there are rules about attacking the referee, or attacking your opponent after the bell. As far as why the Masters of Combat Style of MA (which is who and what styles exactly ?) don't compete, the original rules only had no biting and no eye-gouging. Groin strikes, pressure point attacks, grabbing the trachea etc were all permissable for the first four or five UFC's. The rules were only brought in to allow the sport to continue by making it more palatable to the State Boxing Commissions. So these so called masters had ample opportunity in the beginning to go in and make $60,000 easy cash. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 yes if they couldent do it in UFC 1-5 then they cant do it now...Royce even got bitten By Gerard Gordau..you know what it got him? An extra vicious choke that royce didint realse very quickly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti-Kwon-Leap Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 I wonder what a dogfight would look like if there was no biting or scratching allowed ;D Ti-Kwon-Leap"Annoying the ignorant since 1961" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 "It's a sport, that's why there are rules about attacking the referee, or attacking your opponent after the bell." Obviously it's a sport, and it's going to have rules, I know. What I'm trying to get at is the mistake people make by saying it's real, it's not. All the things you can't do in UFC is what you can do in a street fight, and who knows maybe there are Masters of Combat Martial Arts that don't want to be on display and they are deadly. Just like there are basketball players out there better than Michael Jordan that never made it to the NBA for one reason or another. UFC changed the rules after the first 4 or 5 also because they did not want law suits either, in the cause someone may get killed. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 I believe that a lot of these rules don't exist in Vale Tudo matches in Brazil or in Pride in Japan. So there really is no excuse for these "masters of combat" not to fight. Or are they only able to fight if they can bite and eye-gouge ? BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 I guess you had to have studied Combat Styles to know the answer to that question. Again it's not real, more real than boxing and other full contact SPORTS for sure, but still not a street fight. Don't get me wrong I think grappling is great, but I would not dare to go to the ground to quickly in a street fight, at least not in my neighborhood. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 So what styles are in the group "Combat Styles" ? BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Kajukenbo, Budo Taijutsu, Aiki-Jutsu, Kung Fu Sansoo, Koppo-Jutsu are just a few to mention. Now really would you suggest someone to go to the floor fighting a gang member in the street with all his buddies standing around, or would you rather be on your feet so you can run if you have to. I just want to hear someone say IT IS NOT A REAL STREET FIGHT. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Do you really think that if you start kicking the guy's ass standing that his mates will let you continue and not step in ? No-one suggests that only going to the ground is the best option, but sometimes you don't have an option. Besides, what you're saying has nothing to do with the title of this thread. Why don't you create another thread and make your case ? BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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