Capoeira

[JusticeZero]

That's not so much a conflict with taiji as it is with CMA in general though. The things that make up a good stance in taiji or other Chinese arts will kill you in Capoeira because they're just plain wrong, incurably so. Then you try walking into taiji class with a bow stance where your back foot is facing forward, your heel is high off the ground, and your torso is leaning forward and you'll get both barrels for that.

[Goju_boi]

"you'll get both barrels for that."

what do u mean?

[JusticeZero]

If I see a bow stance appear in class, I pretty much drop everything i'm doing to correct that form mistake because a bow stance is just plain wrong on so many levels. If I were to take the body position that I correct it into in a CMA class, the teacher acts in the same way, dropping everything to go correct it back to a bow stance. In both cases the teacher is putting their full attention into undoing the other teacher's work.

[Goju_boi]

I guess that's hard on the student more than the teacher

[JusticeZero]

It's hard on everyone. I've dropped classes down to an hour of ginga practice and nothing else because of seeing things like that; basically "I was going to drill a combo entrance into a throw and two kicks, but since some of you are having trouble with ginga, that's what we're working today." I presume the Karate equivalent would be "I had planned to work on the next part of the form you need for your test, but instead we're going to practice stepping in front stance for the whole class."

[Goju_boi]

"I had planned to work on the next part of the form you need for your test, but instead we're going to practice stepping in front stance for the whole class."

sounds about right.That or working on your straddle stance.

[elbows_and_knees]

nah, that's not the same pot. TKD got it's current rep from a lot of things... the cammo belt that ATA uses, the flash seen in forms, the large number of McSchools, etc.

Actually, the camo belt goes along with the belt philosophy. When HU Lee designed the Songahm forms in the mid 80's, he created 9 belts with attendant philosphies. Songahm itself means "Pine Tree and Rock", and the belt philosphies reflect the growth of the tree.

Camo belt philosophy is "The sapling is hidden amongst the taller pines, and must now begin to fight its way upwards". Camo belt is also the first belt where students are introduced to free sparring. Just because you think it looks funny, doesn't mean there isn't a reason behind it.

Aodhan

I know there's a reason behind it. When I was younger, a friend of mine gave me a sheet from his school that had the meanings of all the belts. the meaning is irrelevant to why it gets picked on though.

[Goju_boi]

I never knew that belts had meanings.

[White Warlock]

Well, normally they wouldn't. It was more reverse engineering than anything else. Belt colors were created in Europe, and then various different groups created meanings behind the colors.

[Goju_boi]

so the belt system came from europe?I thought it was in japan(forgot which style used it at first though)