Question about MMA

[MasterNinja]

First of all thanks to all those people who offered advice on this thread.

http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=23269

Secondly, what are the similarities and differences etc between what you see at a Ninjitsu club and what you see MMA Students doing?

[Menjo]

I find how MMA take from TMA kind of contradicting.

[AndrewGreen]

Well, first have a look at you ninjitsu club.

A good number are nothing but geek clubs of people that like to believe they are super d34dly ninja warriors that could kill you before you could blink....

The difference in MMA and traditional styles is more in method then anything else. Everything is based around what you, as an indivivdual, can make work on the mat. No forms, no patterns, no set of techniques handed down, no "death strikes", just what you can make work in sparring, and doing so under as few rules as possible.

[Muaythaiboxer]

good post, although there are good ninjitsu schools out there most are poor quality

[MasterNinja]

Well, first have a look at you ninjitsu club.

Yeah I have already done this, neglected to mention this so apologies.

General format was warm up/stretching etc to begin.

There were two areas covered in a hour long class, the first was pressure point techniques from standing, kneeling and prone positions. The second was sparring techniques involving correct ways to punch and kick. One such punching technique was to 'feint' a punch at an opponent then spin round and backfist. Another was to use what the instructor called a "power jab" which was (assuming you were right handed) to jab off the right hand as that's the one with the power. Overall I'd say it was a good class and only cost me £12.

[elbows_and_knees]

I find how MMA take from TMA kind of contradicting.

they don't really "take" from anything. and actually, wrestling and boxing aren't tma. bjj and thai boxing are considered by you traditional guys to be "sport" and "modern".

In addition, there are only so many ways to hurt someone. whether the style is old or new, there is bound to be crossover there. the main difference is in the training methods, not the techniques.

[Menjo]

I find how MMA take from TMA kind of contradicting.

they don't really "take" from anything. and actually, wrestling and boxing aren't tma. bjj and thai boxing are considered by you traditional guys to be "sport" and "modern".

In addition, there are only so many ways to hurt someone. whether the style is old or new, there is bound to be crossover there. the main difference is in the training methods, not the techniques.

yea, good point. However im niether TMA or MMA( i trained muay thai too),

[Kajukenbopr]

well, I dont know why people insist that traditional martial arts dont work- i find that if a traditional martial art doesnt work for you at a given time, you probably did not train for it or werent taught as you should have been.

[Ego Assassin]

It snot so much that they wouldn't work as it is how they train. A school must remain open to be successful if the workouts are to hard or if there is too much contact people drop out. To keep the doors open they must create a place where people from all walks and all abilities can learn. So most schools will never produce quality fighters. If you are TMA don't get offended. Unless you are going to fight pro let it go. Everyone calls BJJ sport but there are two sides to every coin. I have no need to be offended by the label sport I am in the 5%!

[Menjo]

Yet there are probably alot of quality fighters here, its not about quality its about media and who gets attention. Currently UFC is most famous among MA so ppl are jumping on board and all joining UFC type of MA. The way of thinking makes people i find think TMA to wimpy, or non-contact. Its really disappointing........The reason obviously why clubs let all types of people in is because they dont have enough money. MMA do have enough money so they can train and take thier pick. Im not siding with either im just trying to get rid of the bias.