lgm Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 Hi people, i'm starting jujitsu tomorow, but i've seen anadvertisment in karate.could any one tell me which one is the best for self-defence please?There's no "one best" self-defence for everyone, but there can be "one best" for every martial arts enthusiast like you. What is best for you may not be best for others. Physical aptitudes, body type, interest inclination and other related subject variables will significantly and greatly determine which martial art is best for a particular individual. The context variable or setting where the person is likely to use his self-defense skill must also be factored in. In reality, there are so many factors one must consider and proportinately input into a predictive equation to be able to prescribe which type of self-defense will work in general, that we cannot hope to determine which self-defense art is best for everyone or even most people (and absolutely never for all people in any given time). In other words, there is no specific self-defense art yet devised that is best in general.
Gyte Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 (edited) If I had to chose between or karate or jujitsu, I would chose jujitsu. The reaon for this is because I find it more suited to self defence than karate. I myself have practised Shotokan karate for 4 years. When we were practising self defence techniques against an attacker with a knive or a stick, we always would use jujitsu techniques and never karate techniques.Are you sure? Alot of "jujutsu" techniques are contained within karate. Throws, joint locks, ect are contained within karate.I think this more true for Goju-ryu karate than Shotokan karate. Shotokan karate has dropped most of its grappling. I'm sure Goju-ryu still practises Tuite techniques a lot.Both karate and jujitsu have their own specialism. Karate is good at punching, blocking and kicking. Jujitsu is very poor at these techniques. Jujitsu is good at grappling, joint locks and throws. This is where karate is poor at. If I was you I would try to take them both. They complement each other very good.I'm positive when you dissect your katas, you would find that karate is not "just" punching, blocking, and kicking. Most katas have some sort of grappling bunkai to them.True. There are many joint locks and throws hidden in the katas, even in Shotokan katas. But in Shotokan we practise them so little. We concentrate more on punching, kicking and blocking and so we tend to be poor at grappling. Edited October 12, 2005 by Gyte "Practising karate means a lifetime of hard work."~Gichin Funakoshi
pittbullJudoka Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 IMO they are both great styles.I firmly believe one should learn both styles because alot of times a fight ends up on the ground.Shotokan is a stand up style for the most part.And jujitsu is ground fighting for the most part.Training in a stand up style and a ground fight fighting system makes you a more complete martial artist.
orion82698 Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 Check out Rex Kwon Do! Just kidding! With so many styles of karate, and a break of JJ to Brazilian JJ... keep in mind, Karate is a striking art, and JJ is a grappling art. You won't do much kicking/punching JJ, and you won't do much ground and locks in certain Karate styles I don't have to be the best, just better than you!Working towards 11% BF and a Six pack
shogeri Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 The Martial Art should mold itself to the person, not the person to the Art. Jujutsu is older than Karate (in their current form). Thus, a true Karate way should include jujutsu techniques, but not all of them do. There is Karate-Do, and Karate-Jujutsu. At first glance it is hard to tell the difference. Goju Ryu for instance incorporates, at higher levels, jujutsu techniques, which in all reality are chi' na techniques, since Goju Ryu is Naha Te is Chuan Fa or Chinese Kempo/Shaolin as one goes backward in lineage.True jujutsu (jiujutsu) is both a striking art and joint locking/throw down circular way of Martial Art.I teach a jujutsu mix of karate, taijiquan, muay thai, etc...So I am partial in most regards to jujutsu.If I were to take a external style again it would be Kenpo, and or Hung Gar Kung Fu. If I were to start as a child I would take Taijiquan as taught by the masters of two centuries ago, rather than the 20th century. Erle Montaigue has a decent approach I respect.Just do whatever works for your body, mind, and spirit (character,etc).Research and study academically as you go along in your training.Those are my thoughts... Current:Head Instructor - ShoNaibuDo - TCM/Taijiquan/Chinese Boxing InstructorPast:TKD ~ 1st Dan, Goju Ryu ~ Trained up 2nd Dan - Brown belt 1 stripe, Kickboxing (Muay Thai) & Jujutsu InstructorBe at peace, and share peace with others...
Anbu Alex Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 My dojo was invited to a belt testing of a jujutsu school and we found out that the master also has a black belt with Karate and teaches it in her school also she encourages her students to take karate My point if yea can take both White belt for life"Destroy the enemies power but leave his life"
MATX1 Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 I was always taught that there is no such thing as the best art, only better training. As I gain in experience, I have found this to be true. There is good karate and less good karate. There is good jujutsu and less good jujutsu.
lgm Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 When asked which martial arts is the best of all, an Aikido master once said something to this effect: "There are many paths leading to the top of the mountain. But on top of the mountain, we see the same moon."Gene
ninjanurse Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 When asked which martial arts is the best of all, an Aikido master once said something to this effect: "There are many paths leading to the top of the mountain. But on top of the mountain, we see the same moon."GeneNicely said! "A Black Belt is only the beginning."Heidi-A student of the artsTae Kwon Do,Shotokan,Ju Jitsu,Modern Arnishttp://the100info.tumblr.com/
Adonis Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 Check both of them out and see which one you like and fits your goals as to why you want to do the martial arts. There isn't a single best all around style. You got to choose art, instructor, and place. Most people don't or won't stay commited to traveling long distance to a school. So picking one close that you like is good, that is afordable, that you feel comfortable with an instructor and how he teaches you, as well as other fellow class mates. Not to mention if you like the over all style and it meets your goals as to why you want to study martial arts. Exmaple I wouldn't take Jiu-Jitsu to learn how to strike, or be good with multiple weapons. Or I wouldn't take shotokan to learn how to be really good on ground techniques cause its not heavily emphasized. So if your not sure what you want check both places out and see whats best for you. Or what you like the best. Good luck to you sir!
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