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Is it necessary to train in all three phases of a fight? (free phase, clinch and ground)  

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  1. 1. Is it necessary to train in all three phases of a fight? (free phase, clinch and ground)

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Posted

Just a question for the Instructors.

Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward,

Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both,

For a wounded man shall say to his assailant, If I live I will kill you, If I die you are forgiven.

Such is the rule of HONOR!

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Posted

Depends on what you are planning on doing...

If your goal is to go to the Olympics on the TKD team, it would likely be a mistake as you should focus on what you need to do to win.

If you want general hand to hand skills for all occasions, then yes. And probably reccomend some weapons stuff as well.

If you want to fight MMA, then yes, but no weapons...

All depends on the persons goals.

I wouldn't call this crosstraining though, just training. MMA is a seperate entity and all the skills need to connect and work together. Crosstraining comes from doing everything together, then going out and finding a specialist to improve a specific area. Not looking at all the areas in isolation.


Andrew Green

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Posted

I do TKD and jujitsu. TKD has the kicks, some hand techniques, forms, and general self defense (and some weapons). Jujitsu has the "good stuff" when it comes to self defense. Anything from standing, to ground defenses, to kicking (low), to weapons to... you get the idea. My Jujitsu instructor is even helping me pass my BB test (in TKD) by helping me with my TKD stuff (the SD stuff anyways), so I will be ready to test in the spring. I think that is pretty cool.

I feel both arts work well together, but they are also different enough that I don't think I would confuse them (then again, I'm only a white belt in Jujitsu).

Laurie F

Posted

as said before, it depends of the goal

if self defense is the goal then yes, but be aware that you should try to adjust your training to the group as much as possible witch is more important.

anti rape class is different than a self defense class for security guards etc.

these kind of factors come into play as you have to decide how much you get into each stage of the fight.

So you cannot simply put every scenario in stages like standup, clinch and groundfighting.

those are only 3 out of many options in a streetfight.

in a mma setting it's more likely to use these terms but still make sure that you can blend the stages.

if you get seperated classes in groundfighting, standupfighting and clinching (hypothetically) than you miss out on a lot of technique and stategy

so vis pacem para bellum

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as said before, it depends of the goal

Bingo. I train in TKD and a bit of GF, I also know some PPCT and a little krav but I wouldn't say that I'm "training" in them. I would say major in your MA, whatever it may be, then minor in another (which means you are training in it, but not at the expence of your major MA) Then attend clinics on krav, or whatever, to get the basics of that particular MA.

Posted

Nicely put, MasterH.

Aodhan

There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other.


-Douglas Everett, American hockey player

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